H5000 Pilot

[Dockhead]

Anyone have experience with the H5000 autopilot computer?


I'm helping a friend with an electronics refit on a Discovery 67, which has a Jefa autopilot.


We're going with a full B&G system with H5000 computer.


What about the H5000 pilot computer? Worth it?

[sailormed]

I founf this link for the manual. No opinion on it.

https://productimageserver.com/liter...al/84018OM.pdf

[Snore]

post this question on sailing anarchy-- the 5000 is more a racing thing

[Tehani]

When someone spends a fortune on something, their subconscious is automatically conditioned, and from then on there is nothing else that works better in the world.
That happens with everything: Cars, stereos, boats ... Absolutely with everything.

If you are almost convinced that this is the best, you will not change with the advice of anyone, and you will try to avoid criticism when you have already spent the money. So buy it, install it and enjoy it.

I believe that sailing is an art with a scientific basis and I learned what I know in the world of regattas. I am a few years older and I think that the vision of the sea is much better than that of one or many displays.

I apologize for being rude, but I am sincerely saying this.

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by Tehani

When someone spends a fortune on something, their subconscious is automatically conditioned, and from then on there is nothing else that works better in the world.
That happens with everything: Cars, stereos, boats ... Absolutely with everything.

If you are almost convinced that this is the best, you will not change with the advice of anyone, and you will try to avoid criticism when you have already spent the money. So buy it, install it and enjoy it.

I believe that sailing is an art with a scientific basis and I learned what I know in the world of regattas. I am a few years older and I think that the vision of the sea is much better than that of one or many displays.

I apologize for being rude, but I am sincerely saying this.

What is this all about? Maybe posting after a couple of drinks? What do you think this adds to the discussion?

I have no experience with the H5000 pilot and no knowledge about it, and am not "almost convinced" about anything. For all I know it's just a rebranded AC42. Or on the contrary, maybe it's really good. I am asking if anyone has any actual experience or knowledge, of which I have none, and no prejudices one way or the other.

It's a natural question since we are going with other elements of the H5000 system.

[poiu]

I looked into it a year ago when I was specifying a new one. I reckoned the basic pilot was good enough for a heavy, slow responding cruiser like mine or the Discovery 67. For a racing or performance yacht or a performance cat I would choose it.

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by poiu

I looked into it a year ago when I was specifying a new one. I reckoned the basic pilot was good enough for a heavy, slow responding cruiser like mine or the Discovery 67. For a racing or performance yacht or a performance cat I would choose it.

Thanks.


You're using the AC42?


I can't say that I'm all that crazy about mine.

[Frankly]

The Jefa is the rudder drive unit and in the end is just a DC motor with some type of gear reducer and clutching unit (skipping hydraulic for the moment). No electrical magic here.

The electrical bridge motor drive unit has not changed much over the years, the big recent improvement came with the addition of a heading rate sensor and more recently a solid state compass to replace the old gimballed fluxgates.

Adding a rudder position sensor to the mix will always improve the performance of most AP systems.

At a basic level the rudder does not control the vessel heading but the turn rate. Changing heading is a rate/ time integration process (we all do it without thinking hand steering) but sensing the thing you are controlling almost always works better.

Most else on a modern AP is just like a Christmas tree (some like a lot of decorations, some not so much).


Frankly

[poiu]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Thanks.


You're using the AC42?


I can't say that I'm all that crazy about mine.

NAC-3 and Triton 2 and keypad. Rudder sensor and Maretron compass. It’s fine for me. I also have a Fastnet to N2K interface adapter so I can use my old wind and depth sensors.