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Old 14-06-2023, 10:12   #31
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Re: Got hit by lightning - suggestions for repair path

Thanks!

However, doing a complete rewiring of the mast or even the vessel... may would cause me more problems then i already have.

At least in this part of the world...

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Old 21-06-2023, 09:44   #32
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Re: Got hit by lightning - suggestions for repair path

Dear cruising friends.
Being an Electrical Engineer, with first hand experience of lightning strikes aboard my 43' Privilege catamaran, I am happy to share some ideas in the matter of lightning.

Assuming your mast is aluminium, it is in itself a very efficient lightning rod towering 10 to 30 meters above your ship and the sea surface.
It is actually too efficient as it will attract lightning in a several hunded meters radius around the boat. Were it not for the mast, lightning might have struck the sea nearby with little harm.
( If the lighning strike is close enough, it may still kill your VHF spliter by induction in the mast cables)


Assuming your shrouds are steel, ( i.e.: not non conductive Dynema)

One of your chain plates (of top shroud or of back stay, one is enough) should be connected with a heavy gage copper wire or copper band to a bolt of the iron keel (in case of cast iron keel on a mono hull).

In the case of a fiberglass encapsulated lead keel isolated from the sea,
or in the case of a catamaran where "keels" are non conductive fiberglass fins, the copper wire or copper band should be connected to a 1 square foot metal (copper) "sea-plate" attached outside the hull well below the waterline so that it remains submerged when the boat heels or the sea is rough.
(This is proprerly done on Privilege catamarans)

When ligning strikes your mast (as it happened to my catamaran), the kilo-amps will flow to the sea, mostly via the iron keel or sea-plate)

I say mostly, because, depending on the energy of the lighning strike,
the kilo-amps will find additional ways to reach the sea through the engine and sail drives (killing the starter motor and alternator), the regrigerator's keel cooler (killing the refrigerator's compressor), or worse through the steel armature of the plastic pipe between the bronze through hull and the engine's colling water pump.
In this worst case scenario, the steel armature is vaporised and the pipe severed, leaving one (or several) disconnected throughhulls open to flooding, beyond the capacity of bilge pumps ( which are probably dead after lighning anyway).

Without a a chain plate connected to a keel bolt or sea-plate, the kilo-volts and kilo-amps will find their own way to the sea : Expect the worse: hull punctured + fire aboard.

So priorities after the strike are ;
1- Is the crew safe, ( no cardiac massage required )
2- Is there fire aboard (that schould be easily ascertained)
3 -Are we sinking : Lift all floor board and investigate the bilges and engine hold seriously)

Having found no one hurt, no fire and no sinking... you are not done yet

At the mast top you have a wind sensor, a VHF antenna and
navlights, all three duly connected by electric cables down the mast into the boat.
They will all be reduced to charcoal by lightning.

Through these 3 cables the kilovolts (50 Kv, 100 Kv..) descend into the boat on a rampage, toasting all your electronics, (AIS, VHF, Chartplotter, Radar Auto pilot's computer, inverter, generator, randomly shorting your wire looms, killing bilge pumps, starters, electric winches..etc..)
In the cabin we found shards of glass on the bed sheets .. from exploded light bulbs in the ceiling !
We had 30 000 $ dammages.

"Luckily", an Ipad fitted with Navionics was spared as it was not connected for charging . It afforded us navigating means as we sailed on "by hand" toward Tahiti.

The only possible defense against the Kilo Volts rampage is to fully isolate the boats electric network from the cables in the mast and the mast itself.
In all production boats, the connectors are hardly accessible, and will not be disconnected if and when a chance of lightning is perceived.

To encourage zelous disconnection of mast cables, all cables coming from the mast should be led to an easily accessible "switchboard" where all cables can be disconnected with minimum 1 inch air gaps with simple gestures.

Yet there is no garanty this will suffice. Think of the KiloVolts going down the forestay, to the pulpit, the navlight in the pulpit, the 12 v cable of the navlight.... .

And when you feel safe , say back in some marina, and take stock of dammages with the help of some professional electrician , you are still not done yet :
In your home ashore, 220 V or 110 volts will immediatly turn an electrical fault into a shortcircuit tripping a breaker.
Not so aboard your 12 Volts ship! The fault will simmer and burn slowly, and 2 weeks after the strike a pump' motor which still worked fine after the strike will be reduced to charcoal, the starter motors will die , etc....

We were voyaging in the Pacific when lightning struck. Procuring the spare equipment and repairing our catamaran took 3 months.
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Old 21-06-2023, 09:57   #33
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Re: Got hit by lightning - suggestions for repair path

Stop trying to fix it yourself and contact the insurance company. You only get a certain number of days to notify them or you'll have no coverage. And fixing things yourself just gives the insurance company an excuse that you somehow made the damage worse.

Make sure the boat is safely secured. Take many pictures but otherwise do nothing until the the insurance company gets an adjuster on site. Your list means nothing to the insurance company - they'll only believe what their adjuster reports.

Most lightening strikes on catamarans cost over $100,000 to fix. Even if the insurance company only ends up paying half you are ahead of the game.

As others say, new problems will keep appearing for sometime (six months).

And don't worry about "should have dones" - if any lightening protection scheme significantly reduced claims, the insurance company's would require it (or at least give a discount).
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Old 22-06-2023, 07:16   #34
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Re: Got hit by lightning - suggestions for repair path

Agree completely with last 2 posts. The only thing I would add is according to my research, the charge dissipates from the edge of the submerged conductor and the most effective one is a long copper strip about 1" wide and as long as you can make it. Do not "bond" your through hulls or a sintered ground plate (such as used for grounding) - it will invite the charge to them and may well cause them to be blown off the boat.
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Old 26-06-2023, 21:23   #35
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Re: Got hit by lightning - suggestions for repair path

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Originally Posted by SV Confianza View Post
Our insurance paid out over $100k for the damage. And even though we lost a season, everything is brand spanking new. We had over 10 year old equipment.

I’m not sure all insurance companies would be as friendly…
That's great. What is your insurance company?
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Stop trying to fix it yourself and contact the insurance company. You only get a certain number of days to notify them or you'll have no coverage. And fixing things yourself just gives the insurance company an excuse that you somehow made the damage worse.

Make sure the boat is safely secured. Take many pictures but otherwise do nothing until the the insurance company gets an adjuster on site. Your list means nothing to the insurance company - they'll only believe what their adjuster reports.

Most lightening strikes on catamarans cost over $100,000 to fix. Even if the insurance company only ends up paying half you are ahead of the game.

As others say, new problems will keep appearing for sometime (six months).

And don't worry about "should have dones" - if any lightening protection scheme significantly reduced claims, the insurance company's would require it (or at least give a discount).

Insurance company does not pay. Contract requires installed lightning rod, which we did not have. Installing one now.

Additionally I estimate repair costs will be below our set deductible.

Thanks!

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