View Poll Results: Do you have AIS?
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Type A
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8 |
3.81% |
Type B receive only
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44 |
20.95% |
Type B receive and transmit
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126 |
60.00% |
No AIS
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23 |
10.95% |
Type B+ receive and transmit
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9 |
4.29% |
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29-09-2019, 13:45
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#1
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Join Date: Nov 2015
Boat: R&C Leopard 40
Posts: 862
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AIS Poll
Do you currently have AIS, if so, receive only or transmit also? A, B or B+?
Class is the proper word instead of type. Please excuse the incorrect verbiage in the poll.
Looking for what you have installed now, not what you plan to have in the future.
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29-09-2019, 13:53
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#2
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Irish Sea
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Re: AIS Poll
There is no such thing as "B+ receive only"
I have none yet, buying a bog standard Class B before next season - or in case I see a decent wifi-enabled unit reduced beforehand.
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29-09-2019, 13:53
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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Boat: Rafiki 37
Posts: 14,131
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Re: AIS Poll
Sorry, but I don’t know the difference between the types. Maybe define them?
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29-09-2019, 13:59
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Re: AIS Poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by GTom
There is no such thing as "B+ receive only"
I have none yet, buying a bog standard Class B before next season - or in case I see a decent wifi-enabled unit reduced beforehand.
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I didn't think there was, but I am not 100% sure that's true. Thus I left in on the poll.
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Originally Posted by Mike OReilly
Sorry, but I don’t know the difference between the types. Maybe define them?
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Class A is commercial system with shorter intervals between broadcasting and 20w transmit power.
Class B is the normal recreational system with 2w transmit power.
Class B+ has upgraded 5w transmit power and supposed to have guaranteed broadcast time slot in busy areas (like Type A).
See https://digitalyachtamerica.com/product/ait5000/
NOTE ON SOTDMA TECHNOLOGY
Class B+ is a new generation of AIS functionality based on SOTDMA (self organised TMDA) messaging rather than the simpler CSTDMA (carrier sense TDMA). It guarantees your AIS transmission will get a time slot, even in areas of very high traffic density. It also specifies a 5W transmission power (compared with 2W for Class B) and a transmission rate that increases as the vessel moves faster. With regular Class B protocol, the transmission rate is fixed at every 30 seconds when the vessel is moving. It is ideal for ocean sailors requiring the best possible performance and future proof satellite tracking applications, fast power boats and smaller non-mandated commercial vessels. Please click here if you want to learn more about Class B+
All types described here. https://digitalyacht.net/2018/11/26/class-b-sotdma/
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29-09-2019, 14:07
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Re: AIS Poll
Thanks. So, assuming the B+ receive-only isn’t a thing, then I’m good. SH2200 receive-only.
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29-09-2019, 14:07
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Maryland, USA
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Re: AIS Poll
I voted, B transciever... but FWIW and depending on what you hope to learn from the poll... our equipment is 10 years old now, and if I were buying today I'd chose B+.
-Chris
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29-09-2019, 14:09
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Re: AIS Poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by GTom
There is no such thing as "B+ receive only"
I have none yet, buying a bog standard Class B before next season - or in case I see a decent wifi-enabled unit reduced beforehand.
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Now that I realize how dumb I was, it can't be B+ and receive only. Not sure how to remove it from the poll.
Class B+ only helps on the transmit side.
Sorry for the mistake.
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29-09-2019, 14:10
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Re: AIS Poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by ranger42c
I voted, B transciever... but FWIW and depending on what you hope to learn from the poll... our equipment is 10 years old now, and if I were buying today I'd chose B+.
-Chris
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I updated the opening statements to try and clarify. My intention is to see what is currently installed.
Thanks for bringing that up.
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29-09-2019, 14:12
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Left coast.
Posts: 1,451
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Re: AIS Poll
Using app, so don’t see poll. B transceiver. Vesper, of course!
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29-09-2019, 14:28
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Brisbane, Qld, Australia
Boat: Fastback 43 catamaran
Posts: 235
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Re: AIS Poll
Raymarine class b 5w transmit and receive
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29-09-2019, 14:50
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Location: Irish Sea
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Re: AIS Poll
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Originally Posted by Sardean
Raymarine class b 5w transmit and receive
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This one doesn't seem so.
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29-09-2019, 15:24
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Re: AIS Poll
Just for clarity, receive-only isn’t AIS. It’s just snooping/ listening in. There is no standard, no specification, no nothing. It’s just listening in on what actual AIS devices are doing. AIS is a transmit/ receive protocol, period. Anything else is just being a peeping Tom.
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29-09-2019, 15:51
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#13
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: French Polynesia
Boat: Allied 39
Posts: 886
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Re: AIS Poll
AIS class B transmit.
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29-09-2019, 17:20
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Brisbane, Qld, Australia
Boat: Fastback 43 catamaran
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Re: AIS Poll
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Originally Posted by GTom
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Hi Tom, I have the ais700 it transmits using class B SOTDMA network technology. Basically this gives it extra range, accuracy and it uses a transmit power of 5w.
I've had no problems with this system and love it.
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29-09-2019, 17:25
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Location: Irish Sea
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Re: AIS Poll
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sardean
Hi Tom, I have the ais700 it transmits using class B SOTDMA network technology. Basically this gives it extra range, accuracy and it uses a transmit power of 5w.
I've had no problems with this system and love it.
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That's interesting, Raymarine labelled it wrong, SOTDMA+5W is the definition of B+ not B.
(see "Class B" on the device, B+ badge from the dealer, cactusnav)
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