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16-04-2015, 12:03
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
Call Mike at Milltech Marine. If you are looking at an AIS receiver only there are much more inexpensive solutions. I have Transponder on the boat and use a couple of SR 161 receivers at the marina and at home.
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16-04-2015, 12:33
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#32
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Presently on US East Coast
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Posts: 10,108
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
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Originally Posted by ka4wja
But, even better, is the Vesper "CPA" display page!!
Vesper is the only AIS manufacturer that has this CPA display....a couple others have "vectors", etc. but nobody comes close to what Vesper gives you!!
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OpenCPN does this, and I think Coastal Explorer does also.
Mark
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16-04-2015, 12:59
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Boat: Retired Delivery Capt
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AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
I have a 2150 connected to my plotter. It is okay.
But if I had to do again, I'd get an AIS transponder. Better to be seen and to see others.
Many transponders also have a wifi transmitter. This is great because for $100 or so buy an android tablet, download opencpn, FREE charts and then link to the wifi. VIOLA! Instant backup integrated chart plotter.
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16-04-2015, 13:16
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#34
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Meandering about the Gulf of Alaska coast [NNE Pacific]— where the internet doesn't always shine... [Even Elon's...] Homeport: Wrangell Island
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
Our boat came with an AIS transponder [Vesper Watchmate 850 integrated with chartplotter]and I wouldn't be without it. You can choose whether you are broadcasting your own position, and it has an excellent anchor alarm feature [and don't forget you can broadcast your status on AIS; e.g., aground, at anchor, etc...]
We also standardized our MOB alert system on the AIS units available [e.g., McMurdo SmartFind S20] so AIS reception is critical to this function.
Therefore, we are also replacing our 2 older VHF radios with new units that include AIS rx and GPS. [The new radios are on the boat awaiting install...]
One is the SH 2200 with a RAM3 mike. The other is the B&G VF50 with wireless remote mike. Both will be integrated with our N2k network, and both will have AIS rx and GPS turned off, only to be turned on if primary units fail.
We think AIS is important enough to have back-up capability.
YMMV
Cheers!
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16-04-2015, 14:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Back in Northern California working on the Ranch
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
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Originally Posted by Mr Big
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I bought the Garmin GPS puck. I was told the Globalsat was difficult to interphase with OpenCPN.
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16-04-2015, 15:19
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Join Date: Aug 2010
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
Like others, I'm happy with the SH GX2200. I even connected the AIS data to the boat's NMEA 0183 wireless network. Now I have boat data and AIS on the iPad!
Don
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16-04-2015, 18:58
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#37
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Placida FL on the hard for now real nice place cheep rent .
Boat: 78 Laguna ,Windrose 24'
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
The SH - GX2200 has built in GPS receiver no need for GPS antenna depending on install. AIS input - output with only a VHF antenna . Can be hooked up to a PC, Laptop , Tablet , etc with a Milltech marine / USB-Breakout-cable . And it is NEMA 0183 .
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16-04-2015, 19:33
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#38
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Location: Presently on US East Coast
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
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Originally Posted by sailersteve
The SH - GX2200 has built in GPS receiver no need for GPS antenna depending on install. AIS input - output with only a VHF antenna . Can be hooked up to a PC, Laptop , Tablet , etc with a Milltech marine / USB-Breakout-cable . And it is NEMA 0183 .
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It does not have AIS output - it is receive-only.
Mark
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16-04-2015, 20:13
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#39
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Placida FL on the hard for now real nice place cheep rent .
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
Yep Mark you are correct , it receives only . Well that was not what i wanted / hoped / thought i bought . Seems a person can check to many electronic devices and miss something . Not to worry , lot s of LED lights to see me at night anchored in 2ft of water. Or i can stay out of others way sailing my minnow .
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16-04-2015, 21:41
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
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Originally Posted by ka4wja
FamilyVan,
THANK YOU for sharing this!!
But, I may have exaggerated my statement that I've never heard anyone with an AIS receiver, that didn't wish they had a transponder!!!
You may not have been the first sailor I've heard from, who had an AIS receiver, that didn't wish they had an AIS transponder....but most are more concerned about cost, power consumption, etc. and possible added complexity to their electronics system.
But, in all honesty, yours is a rare opinion...
Fair winds...
John
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We're also in the AIS receive only camp with no interest in having a transponder.
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17-04-2015, 02:07
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: East about Circumnavigation
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
We installed a GX 2200 last year. They are fantastic value. Apart from the AIS the radio is a great VHF and the GPS is quick to acquire a signal and as accurate as any of the other standalone systems on board. Installation was a breeze.
I have NMEA data feeding both a Raymarine E7D and a 19" screen running opencpn.
The 19" screen swings into the companionway whilst underway.
The GX 2200 screen is difficult to read; however so is the E7D. The AIS features on E7D are not as clear to read as opencpn. In congested areas or when approaching an anchorage we prefer the opencpn. Other wise the E7D is on 24/7 with the radio and so are their alarms.
Every one will have their own opinion with regards to receive only. I will share my thoughts.
We find that cruising in SE Asia I would prefer that not everyone knows that I am a 15m Pleasure yacht.
So far as commercial shipping seeing you, I think it is good seamanship for small vessels to stay away from large commercial ships. They do have right of way no matter what you think. The AIS GX2200 makes that very simple. If you sail around thinking that every ship has AIS and will get out of your way then you are going to be in for a rude shock.
The push to call feature is great.. We encountered a tug towing a large barge at about 3.00 am on a moonless night on approach to Borneo. Because of the feature we were able to contact the captain and ascertain safe crossing distance to his stern.
In the future when we arrive in Japan and cross to the Aleutians we may upgrade then if I feel the need. The good news is the longer you wait to install a transponder the cheaper they are becoming. Who knows what companies like Standard Horizon are thinking. Having a transmitter as well as the GX2200 will give me a little more redundancy.
Long story/short the GX 2200 is a fantastic piece of gear.
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17-04-2015, 06:09
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#42
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Location: Presently on US East Coast
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
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Originally Posted by sailersteve
Yep Mark you are correct , it receives only . Well that was not what i wanted / hoped / thought i bought . Seems a person can check to many electronic devices and miss something .
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That is one complaint I have about that radio - they advertise it as "AIS right out of the box" and do not do a good job of stressing it is a receive-only unit.
If you check the many previous threads here referencing this radio, you will find a lot of people who were led to believe it was a full AIS receive/transmit solution.
Mark
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17-04-2015, 06:25
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Helsinki (Summer); Cruising the Baltic Sea this year!
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
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Originally Posted by FamilyVan
I'm happy with my receive only system. I don't generally trust people not to run over me, so I'm mostly concerned with where they are so I can take an active approach to collision avoidance.
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Just because you broadcast AIS, doesn't mean you have to assume that people see you
Broadcasting AIS sure improves your odds of being seen, and more important, being prioritized as traffic to deal with. I have observed in myself the tendency to greatly downgrade the importance of traffic not broadcasting AIS, in my own mind. Which is bad, and I fight against it, but I think it's human nature.
But I'm not arguing that it's a necessity. It depends on where you sail. For most sailors, receiving only is probably fine. Probably 90% of the value of AIS is in receiving it.
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17-04-2015, 06:28
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Good question
Boat: Rafiki 37
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
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Originally Posted by Capt.Don
Like others, I'm happy with the SH GX2200. I even connected the AIS data to the boat's NMEA 0183 wireless network. Now I have boat data and AIS on the iPad!
Don
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Don, I've been thinking about doing this. What do you use as your hub? How do you connect and then wifi transmit. I use iNavx (as a backup). Is that what you're using?
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17-04-2015, 06:33
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#45
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Presently on US East Coast
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Re: AIS...all in one radio or computer/opencpn
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Originally Posted by Dockhead
For most sailors, receiving only is probably fine. Probably 90% of the value of AIS is in receiving it.
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Isn't that a chicken-egg problem? What do you receive when no one is transmitting?
Mark
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