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07-06-2021, 03:47
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Too much old content on CruisersForum
I'm sick of reading old content. 15-20 year old content needs to be taken down.
The info is generally out of date and misleading.
Clean out the old content.
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07-06-2021, 03:58
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
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Originally Posted by Boatwithnoname
I'm sick of reading old content. 15-20 year old content needs to be taken down.
The info is generally out of date and misleading.
Clean out the old content.
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Maybe learn how to use the search function?
You do realize, you can set the date range for searches and eliminate the 15-20yr old content if it's not of interest.
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07-06-2021, 04:03
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
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Originally Posted by valhalla360
Maybe learn how to use the search function?
You do realize, you can set the date range for searches and eliminate the 15-20yr old content if it's not of interest.
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I recently (this week) performed a search for the term(s) *marine toilet*
The top 10-12 results had absolutely nothing to do with marine toilets....
Teach us wise one
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07-06-2021, 04:13
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
Hi there, I think you could be partly right, as a lot of posts have links in them, and these links may not work after a certain time ?months ? years. And the joke thread, some are topical/typical of a certain time frame. And certainly all the Covid themed threads will out of date in a few years time. maybe irrelevant after a number of years, but misleading? Maybe not.
Sailing has not changed much over the last 20 years, expect for electronics and sailing on foils and the latter is not much discussed here anyway.
I can genuinely not see a reason to take old content down.
I am just trying to think what kind of topics could be outdated, full of misleading information.
Many people still sail old boats, using older type of equipment, still sail the same seas. Of course when reading an old thread, one can check the dates, and when you believe anything older than 15-20 years is outdated, than just skip that thread.
Lastly if one were to remove that older content, would that be akin to saying that the knowledge those sailors have written, knowledge gathered over 100 of 1000s of NM, is all of a sudden invalid?
Maybe you could give examples or links to what information is misleading. Of course the thought came to my mind that this a trolling exercise, but I treated your post as genuine.
Added on edit: I see you just purchased a boat from 1987, so that is 34 years old. And there maybe a lot written about this boat, its handling, maintenance tips, and you want to have such content deleted?
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07-06-2021, 04:22
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
I've found that the failure of 'searches' [producing unsatisfactory, or no results], even on the CF's, imperfect, 'Custom Search' feature, are, most usually, the fault of the researcher.
Hank made some relevant observations.
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07-06-2021, 04:33
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
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Originally Posted by Boatwithnoname
I'm sick of reading old content. 15-20 year old content needs to be taken down.
The info is generally out of date and misleading.
Clean out the old content.
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How would we ever be able to hold politicians to account if old content was taken down,it would be akin to the Nazi's burning books
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07-06-2021, 04:46
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
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Originally Posted by Boatwithnoname
Clean out the old content.
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No.
It's not going to happen for two reasons. Firstly someone with a problem particularly equipment related might just find the very solution in the 1/4m different threads that solves their problem. After all, there might be content a New Zeelander wanted to read about the CAT1 regulations that applies to them. Be a shame if they were deleted and you couldn't then read them.
Secondly who is going to do this, who decides what stays and what goes? The moderators are volunteers, we all have our own boats and lives to live thankyou. I will be lifting out tomorrow and then start sanding down the antifouling, do pop over if want to lend a hand.
Pete
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07-06-2021, 04:51
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
So I had to try the "marine toilet" search, to see what results I would get.
Advanced search. Keywords "toilet" (marine is implied) Search entire post.
Search in Forums set to "Plumbing Systems and fixtures"
Show results as posts.
No problem. The results were exactly what a person would hope or expect. Lots of stuff about marine toilets, and pretty much nothing else.
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07-06-2021, 04:56
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
Quote:
Originally Posted by S/V Adeline
I recently (this week) performed a search for the term(s) *marine toilet*
The top 10-12 results had absolutely nothing to do with marine toilets....
Teach us wise one
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Odd and I searched for the same term and except for this thread (where you just mentioned the term and the joke thread (which I didn't read to see if it actually included the term) appeared to be related based on the title.
Of course, the question was date related...under the advance search, there is specifically a section covering date range of posts.
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07-06-2021, 05:00
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
The forum already does this, to some extent.
For instance, a search of ”Find all posts by ...” any forum user, will only return the most recent 500 posts [maximum]; in my case, posted on 16-04-2021, at 08:34 [52 days ago].
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07-06-2021, 05:04
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
if you don't want to read old content, don't read it
I use the search function and have always had pretty good luck with results. Also Google search comes up with a CF a lot of time.
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07-06-2021, 05:13
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
Let's burn all the books!
Really, the old threads are dated. And all reading should done analytically. And as was pointed out, most of our boats are 15-40 years old.
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07-06-2021, 05:24
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Registered User
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Location: Lake Ont
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boatwithnoname
I'm sick of reading old content. 15-20 year old content needs to be taken down.
The info is generally out of date and misleading.
Clean out the old content.
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What?!? No! It's not bread; most of it doesn't automatically go bad after a while. It would be bordering on sinful to delete any content based on some arbitrary and simplistic criterion like date.
Many, perhaps most of us own boats that are significantly older than 15 or 20 years. Engines, electricity and plumbing haven't changed all that much in decades; sails, weather, tides, destinations are even a bit older than that .
As already pointed out, there are more than enough ways to restrict your search to more recent content, when desired.
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07-06-2021, 05:36
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
The old content is better than the new stuff anyway.
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07-06-2021, 05:41
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Re: Too much old content on CruisersForum
What an odd thread... If you don't want to read something, don't.
But beyond that, I think the OP fundamentally misunderstands what a discussion forum is. It's a place to come and discuss cruising-related topics. CF is not an encyclopedia or an organized database. It's not a wiki or even a topical website. It is a discussion forum.
That's not to say there isn't a wealth of knowledge (and a lot of crap) embedded in past discussion threads. You can certainly search using the built-in search tools to find past content. I prefer to use the site-specific search function of DuckDuck (or yes, Google ... if you must).
Just start with "site:https://www.cruisersforum.com" and then include your search term(s). For example:
Purging old content because it might be outdated or wrong simply misses the point of a discussion forum.
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