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14-10-2016, 08:48
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
A simple change of law making the CEOs of these corporations criminally responsible for these situations might solve the huge problem, worldwide.
In this situation, they must abide by the "no tanker rule" and run outside. Pilots on board until they reach outside waters.
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14-10-2016, 08:59
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
The "tanker" was empty and isn't what it leaking, Spill would be the same if the cargo was tennis shoes or Baby food
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14-10-2016, 09:08
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
This had nothing to do with the barge being a tanker, it was empty. If it had been an empty lumber barge, the tug would have still run aground. I would think the channel would be well charted, something must have gone wrong, maybe a strong cross wind?
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14-10-2016, 09:11
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
The fact that it went aground is warning enough, IMHO. Why issue an exemption to the law so that a tanker barge of this size can run the inside passage? I understand that fuel needs to be taken into the communities along the IP but that shouldn't mean that large tanker barges are allowed to run the IP.
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14-10-2016, 09:16
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
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Originally Posted by Bill Seal
This had nothing to do with the barge being a tanker, it was empty. If it had been an empty lumber barge, the tug would have still run aground. I would think the channel would be well charted, something must have gone wrong, maybe a strong cross wind?
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Theres plenty of room past Bella Bella for any size ship. Most likely mechanical failure at fault. A few thousand gallons of diesel won't ruin the area...Bella Bella dumps their raw sewage straight into the ocean so if their clam beds survive that I'm sure all will be OK.
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14-10-2016, 09:18
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
"Why issue an exemption to the law so that a tanker barge of this size can run the inside passage? I understand that fuel needs to be taken into the communities along the IP but that shouldn't mean that large tanker barges are allowed to run the IP."
Please try to pay some attention. The barge was EMPTY.
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14-10-2016, 09:20
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
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Originally Posted by Bill Seal
This had nothing to do with the barge being a tanker, it was empty. If it had been an empty lumber barge, the tug would have still run aground. I would think the channel would be well charted, something must have gone wrong, maybe a strong cross wind?
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I agree with you Bill, it's the tug that is causing the damage.
How deep is the water where the tug sank?
If it ran aground then it can't that deep and possibly there can be a way of plugging the leak.
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14-10-2016, 09:23
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
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Theres plenty of room past Bella Bella for any size ship. Most likely mechanical failure at fault. A few thousand gallons of diesel won't ruin the area...Bella Bella dumps their raw sewage straight into the ocean so if their clam beds survive that I'm sure all will be OK.
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And your environmental or marine science credentials sir?
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14-10-2016, 09:24
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
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How deep is the water where the tug sank?
If it ran aground then it can't that deep and possibly there can be a way of plugging the leak.
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If you had ever passed through the IP you wouldn't ask that question.
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14-10-2016, 09:44
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
Well the response organization have dispatched skimmers to the region and deployed a boom so I am assuming they are expecting to recover something.
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14-10-2016, 10:39
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
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I didn't know that, interesting read.
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14-10-2016, 13:32
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Re: Tanker Barge aground in BC
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I didn't know that, interesting read.
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Agreed! And it makes a mockery of the outrage and large fines sometimes associated with spills far smaller than 500 gallons... you know, the 'any visible sheen" kinda rule.
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