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26-07-2018, 01:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 19
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Salon, saloon
So what is that livingroom on a boat called????
I researched it, but did not come up with anything conclusive. The most confusing answer was this
Saloon = Living room
The social area of a larger boat is called the saloon. However, it is pronounced “salon.”
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26-07-2018, 01:58
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Lake MacQuarie NSW AUS
Boat: Wilf O’kell Zeus 44ft
Posts: 10
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Re: Salon, saloon
Haha,
We had the same question but decided that as we drink beer more than doing our nails we would stick with saloon!
Cheers Greg
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26-07-2018, 02:10
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Moderator

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
Boat: Moody 31
Posts: 17,342
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Re: Salon, saloon
So which one is the more dangerous, a wild west saloon full of cowboys or a ladies hair dressers salon?
Pete
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26-07-2018, 02:19
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Moreton Bay
Boat: US$4,550 of lead under a GRP hull with cutter rig
Posts: 2,133
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Re: Salon, saloon
I've never heard of a thing called a "living room" on a boat or a ship.
We've found the weather deck, including the cockpit, a great place for living on all boats we've used including that that have been our liveaboard homes.
Perusing authoritative dictionaries, such as the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) and Merriam-Webster, gives agreement with Wannadriveaboat on the orthography:
saloon.
OED records that word being in use for "a large cabin in a passenger-boat for the common use of passengers in general" since about 1835.
However authoritative dictionaries depart from Wannadriveaboat on pronunciation.
On pronunciation, both sides of the N Atlantic (the OED in the UK, the MW in the US) suggest that the final vowel is oo or u-umlaut.
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26-07-2018, 03:07
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Port Moresby,Papua New Guinea
Boat: FP Belize Maestro 43 and OPBs
Posts: 12,881
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Re: Salon, saloon
On a cat, it's the saloon (rhymes with moon) except when the missus is doing her nails 
On a monohull, it's the dungeon (d,rfc)
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26-07-2018, 03:59
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Maryland, USA
Boat: 58' Sedan Bridge
Posts: 5,180
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Re: Salon, saloon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wannadriveaboat
So what is that livingroom on a boat called????
I researched it, but did not come up with anything conclusive. The most confusing answer was this
Saloon = Living room
The social area of a larger boat is called the saloon. However, it is pronounced “salon.”
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More often, seen in print the other way around (salon) and properly pronounced saloon.
Ya have to ask the Brits why they pronounce some French words the way they do.
-Chris
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26-07-2018, 04:16
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: East Cackalacky
Boat: Hunter 340, 1999, 34'
Posts: 182
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Re: Salon, saloon
Everything has its downside. Universal schooling is no exception. As most people have become literate but not educated, the sometimes quirky spelling of words in written English has influenced the spoken tongue. "Salon" when used in this language is pronounced "sa-loon" just as "comptroller" is pronounced like "controller." The word "bowline" is similar; its pronunciation is "bo-lin," but due to its spelling many say "bough-line."
Of course, the obverse is also true. "Saloon" as a written word is a phonetic of the English pronunciation of the original spelling, "salon."
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26-07-2018, 04:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
Boat: Leopard 39
Posts: 860
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Re: Salon, saloon
Real men don't have "salons" on their vessels LOL
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26-07-2018, 05:09
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Port Moresby,Papua New Guinea
Boat: FP Belize Maestro 43 and OPBs
Posts: 12,881
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Re: Salon, saloon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Attikos
"Salon" when used in this language is pronounced "sa-loon" just as "comptroller" is pronounced like "controller."
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Not anywhere I have lived. Salon rhymes with talon. The second syllable is pronounced as in moron.
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26-07-2018, 05:20
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: East Cackalacky
Boat: Hunter 340, 1999, 34'
Posts: 182
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Re: Salon, saloon
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuM
Not anywhere I have lived. Salon rhymes with talon. The second syllable is pronounced as in moron. 
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You must know a lot of Frenchmen!
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26-07-2018, 06:28
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: Retired from CF
Posts: 13,302
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Re: Salon, saloon
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuM
Not anywhere I have lived. Salon rhymes with talon. The second syllable is pronounced as in moron. 
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That word and pron is used in UK/Commonwealth countries for the "parlor / formal living room" in S&B homes as well.
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26-07-2018, 06:46
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Southern Maine
Boat: Prairie 36 Coastal Cruiser
Posts: 2,710
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Re: Salon, saloon
Their being no consensus...
My boat isn't fancy enough to have a salon. It's much closer to a wild-West Saloon. Hence, I choose to use the original pronunciation with the long "o" sound.
I'm quite sure there are more refined yacht clubs (the ones I don't frequent) where "salon" is much more appropriate. And I'm OK with that.
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26-07-2018, 07:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Now in Davao, the Philippines.
Boat: Leopard 40 catamaran
Posts: 137
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Re: Salon, saloon
After 5, I call it the saloon.
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26-07-2018, 11:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Fort Pierce Fl
Boat: Gulfstar 36 MS
Posts: 209
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Re: Salon, saloon
Salon = seating area
Saloon + seating area with dining facilities
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26-07-2018, 12:20
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
Boat: Luders 33 - hull 23
Posts: 1,683
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Re: Salon, saloon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outlaw7
Salon = seating area
Saloon + seating area with dining facilities
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Correction: saloon is a seating area with dining facilities besides the engine and one step from the toilet.
...and whadya call the benches in the saloon? Settees for peat sake.
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