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28-08-2014, 06:02
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
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Originally Posted by a64pilot
What are the regs for an anchor ball as to size, color etc? Could one of the inflatable red bumper balls work legally?
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Only if you paint it black.
You can buy a folding anchor ball (it's not really a "ball" but when assembled, it appears to be round from a distance) for under $20. The difficulty for us non-sailboaters is where and how to display it. And of course remembering to put it up in the afternoon and take it down when getting underway.
PLASTIMO Folding Anchor Ball | West Marine
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28-08-2014, 06:04
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
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Originally Posted by a64pilot
What are the regs for an anchor ball as to size, color etc? Could one of the inflatable red bumper balls work legally?
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Black and not less than 0.6m in diameter.
Colregs Annex I
(A vessel under 20m can be smaller but should be "commensurate with the size of the vessel")
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28-08-2014, 06:38
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
I would test your chain strength in order to determine your course of action....
Make up or acquire a stout bridle for your stern... Then...
On a moonless night idle over to the overzealous tow boat and carefully put 2-3 wraps of your chain around his port drive... Pay out about 30-50' of chain ensuring the the damaged portion is somewhere in that span...
Back stern to stern and get a decent running start...
If your chain holds up fine, it's probably best not to pursue the matter...
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28-08-2014, 09:21
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
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Originally Posted by rwidman
That's what the regulations state. I have never seen a recreational boat anchored and showing an anchor ball. Never.
I'll admit I haven't been around as much as some folks, but I have been around. ...
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Almost never seen a recreational boat display the day shape either. The only time was a boat anchored near the shipping channel on the Panama Canal, but I suspect there was a professional crew.
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28-08-2014, 09:35
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
I've seen plenty of balls displayed.... but most of them in San Diego where the local Gestapo was anal about it!
Also seen many on paid skippered boats, day charters etc. Those guys have to go by the book or be at risk if an accident happens.
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28-08-2014, 10:13
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
FYI
Don't forget your cone while motor sailing...
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28-08-2014, 10:36
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
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Originally Posted by Lubber4now
Reminds me of HH aboard Renown under the guns of the Spanish fort.
Out with the kedge anchor!
Fire the guns to rock her lads!
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HA-HA, I can tell that you are a romantic. But they took back the fort
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28-08-2014, 10:39
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
My thought was to take one of these, paint it black and run it up the main halyard. I try as much as possible to anchor out alone, so at night I'd have a RADAR reflector and in day I have an anchor ball. It's not .6 meters, but I'm not 20 meters either
Davis Instruments Emergency Radar Reflector - Standard
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28-08-2014, 10:57
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
Black ball by day; anchor light by night.
The black ball became common in Med anchorages perhaps 6 years or so ago. I have no idea when it became a requirement.
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28-08-2014, 12:09
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
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Originally Posted by markpierce
No display is required in a designated special anchorage of which there is only one in the SF estuary (Richardson Bay). Display is required for designated general anchorages of which there are many in the estuary.
Anchor ball displayed as required in a general anchorage:
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Oops of course u are quite correct. Only in Special anchorages are you not required to show an anchor ball.
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28-08-2014, 12:15
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
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Originally Posted by Prairie Chicken
Black ball by day; anchor light by night.
The black ball became common in Med anchorages perhaps 6 years or so ago. I have no idea when it became a requirement.
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Some two centuries ago?
Or something like this...
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28-08-2014, 12:23
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
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Originally Posted by Blue Stocking
HA-HA, I can tell that you are a romantic. But they took back the fort
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Kedging would probably yank the stern off a pleasure boat.
I would try float bags. Or have everyone run fore-aft-fore-aft to rock her out
If tow boats are anything like tow trucks .....
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28-08-2014, 12:44
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
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Originally Posted by Lubber4now
Kedging would probably yank the stern off a pleasure boat.
I would try float bags. Or have everyone run fore-aft-fore-aft to rock her out
If tow boats are anything like tow trucks .....
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There's no harm in calling for a tow if you need one. I wouldn't leave the dock without a TowBoatUS or Seatow membership.
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28-08-2014, 13:05
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
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Originally Posted by rwidman
There's no harm in calling for a tow if you need one. I wouldn't leave the dock without a TowBoatUS or Seatow membership.
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I wouldn't be able to resist the fun of barking commands and chasing the slowpokes with my rattan.
Step lively there!
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28-08-2014, 14:40
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Re: Run Aground / Damage from an Unwanted Rescue Boat
FWIW:
OUr anchor ball, which we display regularly, is a cheap basketball from a K-Mart spray painted black and with a little harness I made up out of one inch webbing for attachment.
I use the spinny pole lift to hoist it, with a fixed length pennant clipped to a stanchion base. Takes only a few seconds to up or down it and it must ward off evil, 'cause no one runs into us at anchor!
It isn't 0.6 metre in diameter, but then it is far larger compared to our length than the ones displayed on thousand foot tankers, etc.
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