Philosophy on Sailing Videos?

[Adelie]

I looked at each one a little bit.
The most viewed video a a memorial video for what I assume is a friend at a yacht club that died. This was also the most upvoted with 23.
The most up voted sailing video had 8 up votes.
One had 6 down votes and no up votes or maybe 1 up vote.
All have down votes.
Not very impressed.

Go flog your channel somewhere else please.

[Doge]

I've been watching a lot of sailing videos since deciding to buy a boat hopefully next spring. I watch mainly channels with small boats as that's what I'll be buying. The sailing experience must be quite different on bigger boats like Drake Paragon.

I particularly like Sam Holmes Sailing. He has videos about things like installing a wind vein which are useful to learn from as well as the more standard 'sailing in Bermuda' type videos. He tends to talk more about the actual sailing than some other videos that focus on other aspects such as places. I like Tarka too as they visit some interesting places and show what's possible. Such as living almost self sufficiently anchored in a small cove collecting rainwater or living in a rainforest.

I imagine that's probably the easiest way of getting into a rainforest and living there too since on land you'd have far more hazards. Really interesting and often inspiring stuff. It's a shame nobody making this type of content has gone to Patagonia as that's somewhere I particularly want to go.

[Doge]

Originally Posted by Pete7

I started watching some of your videos and gave up. Personally I prefer the more gritty, raw videos or really challenging sailing areas off the beaten path.

Oh this is really good I'll check out their other videos. Definitely like their philosophy!

[JBP]

I think the best thing about the YouTube trend is that is opens up niche markets for specialized topics, such as sailing, that simply don't draw the millions of viewers required to fund a traditional national cable show. Prior to YouTube, how many mainstream shows were available about sailing, camping, welding, quilting, whatever?
Sure, there is a lot of soft porn and other crap because that sells. In my humble opinion, most of what is on traditional cable is also mostly soft porn and crap, but there is a lot of good stuff on YouTube as well. BoatWorks Today, Sail Life, Adventures of an old Sea Dog are about boat work and sailing without exploiting nearly naked nubiles.
I get that people who ARE cruising don't want to waste time on watching other people do it, but if you enjoy watching TV, watching sailing is still far better than watching Game of Thrones.

[Group9]

The ones I most enjoy watching, are the new sailors who are just setting out who make a lot of mistakes and have to figure out how to do things and how to sail the boat. And then the funny thing is as they progress and make fewer and fewer mistakes, I kind of start to lose interest in them, LOL.

[TrentePieds]

Why would anyone bother to watch a travelogue made by an amateur and taking you nowhere in particular? We've all seen what ocean water looks like, and has done since time immemorial.

If it's travelogue you want, Rick Steeves on PBS, or even Joseph Rosendo, will give you a far superior "telly" experience because the interesting stuff all happens OFF the water. Even in port cities, you gotta get off the boat, so for travelogue you might as well have got there by 747.


If it's boat maintenance, or boat handling, you want, then why watch an amateur's struggles, when there is plenty of solid material available made by people who know what they are doing? "SailRite's "how to" videos come to mind. Mads Dalke's innumerable YouTube videos of a coupla yacht rebuilds (Sail Life) are actually pretty good as learning aids, but what really matters, if you want to learn maintenance, is to get to your boat and get down and dirty.

TrentePieds

[Pete7]

Doge, I watched this last night. A young couple who are very frugal sailing around the world on a 37ft yacht. They are in the Indian Ocean at the moment heading for the East Africa.

In this film they explain why in fluky conditions they have to keep changing their sail plan and route to make progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijjr...gYachtFlorence

[Chris31415]

Originally Posted by Doge

It's a shame nobody making this type of content has gone to Patagonia as that's somewhere I particularly want to go.

It’s a bit dated, from the mid 70’s, but Hal Roth’s book “Two Against Cape Horn” describes he and his wife’s trip on a 35ft boat around Cape Horn. They sail to Chile and take the inside passages down. A good portion of the book is about sailing through the channels.

[Doge]

Originally Posted by TrentePieds

Why would anyone bother to watch a travelogue made by an amateur and taking you nowhere in particular? We've all seen what ocean water looks like, and has done since time immemorial.

If it's travelogue you want, Rick Steeves on PBS, or even Joseph Rosendo, will give you a far superior "telly" experience because the interesting stuff all happens OFF the water. Even in port cities, you gotta get off the boat, so for travelogue you might as well have got there by 747.


If it's boat maintenance, or boat handling, you want, then why watch an amateur's struggles, when there is plenty of solid material available made by people who know what they are doing? "SailRite's "how to" videos come to mind. Mads Dalke's innumerable YouTube videos of a coupla yacht rebuilds (Sail Life) are actually pretty good as learning aids, but what really matters, if you want to learn maintenance, is to get to your boat and get down and dirty.

TrentePieds

I'm sure most people watch tutorials from experts too. But it's nice seeing people going through the process that you have in front of you and then succeeding and getting where you want to be. One really valuable tip I got from Tarka was that there is no dry places on a small sailboat. Based on this I'll get vacuum bags for documents and electronics. You wouldn't necessarily get that sort of tip from a sailing expert.

[Doge]

Originally Posted by Pete7

Doge, I watched this last night. A young couple who are very frugal sailing around the world on a 37ft yacht. They are in the Indian Ocean at the moment heading for the East Africa.

In this film they explain why in fluky conditions they have to keep changing their sail plan and route to make progress.

Ahh I've seen some of their videos. Great channel.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Doge

One really valuable tip I got from Tarka was that there is no dry places on a small sailboat. Based on this I'll get vacuum bags for documents and electronics. You wouldn't necessarily get that sort of tip from a sailing expert.

Geez, I teach that on day one of the Basic Learn To Sail Keelboats course before the students step on a boat.

[Paul L]

Originally Posted by Pete7

Doge, I watched this last night. A young couple who are very frugal sailing around the world on a 37ft yacht. They are in the Indian Ocean at the moment heading for the East Africa.

In this film they explain why in fluky conditions they have to keep changing their sail plan and route to make progress.

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04-10-2021, 03:41	#28
Doge Registered User   Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 21	Re: Philosophy on Sailing Videos? Originally Posted by Chris31415 It’s a bit dated, from the mid 70’s, but Hal Roth’s book “Two Against Cape Horn” describes he and his wife’s trip on a 35ft boat around Cape Horn. They sail to Chile and take the inside passages down. A good portion of the book is about sailing through the channels. Sounds interesting. Given Patagonia's visual appeal it seems strange that it features more in books than visual media like YouTube.

04-10-2021, 03:52	#29
Doge Registered User   Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 21	Re: Philosophy on Sailing Videos? Originally Posted by Paul L Florence left the Seychelles last Friday enroute to Mayotte (top of the Mozambique Channel). Nice couple and excellent dinghy sailors, Yeah I enjoy their videos. I've just tended to watch more of the channels with smaller boats as that's what I intend to buy. I'll probably get a Vega hence why I've watched so much Tarka.

08-10-2021, 08:24	#30
Group9 Registered User   Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,909 Images: 10	Re: Philosophy on Sailing Videos? Originally Posted by TrentePieds Why would anyone bother to watch a travelogue made by an amateur and taking you nowhere in particular? We've all seen what ocean water looks like, and has done since time immemorial. If it's travelogue you want, Rick Steeves on PBS, or even Joseph Rosendo, will give you a far superior "telly" experience because the interesting stuff all happens OFF the water. Even in port cities, you gotta get off the boat, so for travelogue you might as well have got there by 747. If it's boat maintenance, or boat handling, you want, then why watch an amateur's struggles, when there is plenty of solid material available made by people who know what they are doing? "SailRite's "how to" videos come to mind. Mads Dalke's innumerable YouTube videos of a coupla yacht rebuilds (Sail Life) are actually pretty good as learning aids, but what really matters, if you want to learn maintenance, is to get to your boat and get down and dirty. TrentePieds Because, it's not about that. It's about the people. And if they are interesting and entertaining, then they will that way in a garbage dump. But, if they are boring and not entertaining or interesting, then they will still be that way in paradise. __________________ Founding member of the controversial Calypso rock band, Guns & Anchors!

[Doge]

Originally Posted by Chris31415

It’s a bit dated, from the mid 70’s, but Hal Roth’s book “Two Against Cape Horn” describes he and his wife’s trip on a 35ft boat around Cape Horn. They sail to Chile and take the inside passages down. A good portion of the book is about sailing through the channels.

Sounds interesting. Given Patagonia's visual appeal it seems strange that it features more in books than visual media like YouTube.

[Doge]

Originally Posted by Paul L

Florence left the Seychelles last Friday enroute to Mayotte (top of the Mozambique Channel). Nice couple and excellent dinghy sailors,

Yeah I enjoy their videos. I've just tended to watch more of the channels with smaller boats as that's what I intend to buy. I'll probably get a Vega hence why I've watched so much Tarka.

[Group9]

Originally Posted by TrentePieds

Why would anyone bother to watch a travelogue made by an amateur and taking you nowhere in particular? We've all seen what ocean water looks like, and has done since time immemorial.

If it's travelogue you want, Rick Steeves on PBS, or even Joseph Rosendo, will give you a far superior "telly" experience because the interesting stuff all happens OFF the water. Even in port cities, you gotta get off the boat, so for travelogue you might as well have got there by 747.


If it's boat maintenance, or boat handling, you want, then why watch an amateur's struggles, when there is plenty of solid material available made by people who know what they are doing? "SailRite's "how to" videos come to mind. Mads Dalke's innumerable YouTube videos of a coupla yacht rebuilds (Sail Life) are actually pretty good as learning aids, but what really matters, if you want to learn maintenance, is to get to your boat and get down and dirty.

TrentePieds

Because, it's not about that. It's about the people. And if they are interesting and entertaining, then they will that way in a garbage dump. But, if they are boring and not entertaining or interesting, then they will still be that way in paradise.