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26-02-2013, 20:53
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
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Originally Posted by Bash
Yes. And in Australia, "beer" has three syllables.
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I only count 2 syllables, FOS & ters, what am I missing?
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26-02-2013, 21:03
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
Pon pon, mayday, mayday, ponway!
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26-02-2013, 21:28
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
Just to cut the chase ... a real life situation where pilot declares PAN-PAN-PAN:
The declaration starts at 9:37 in the video. Although the pilot uses PAN instead of the "proper" PAN-PAN ... the pronunciation would be the same. Listen and repeat ...
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26-02-2013, 21:40
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
At 0:38 in this video pilot/copilot declares pan pan pan (pronounced Pahn)
Different flier, different pronunciation.
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26-02-2013, 21:46
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
Right ... she the pilot rushed it a bit but it sounds to me the same. Either PAN call can be easily understood and is distinct from casual flight communication.
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26-02-2013, 22:00
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
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Originally Posted by Adelie
I only count 2 syllables, FOS & ters, what am I missing?
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Nobody over here drinks Fosters anymore, well, hardly anybody. It fell completely out of favour here years ago and I would suggest that it sells more overseas than it does at home. There is a beer in Queensland which calls itself XXXX. The reason being that Queenslanders cannot spell beer so they say. By the way XXXX is rubbish beer, in every way.
Coops.
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27-02-2013, 00:06
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
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Originally Posted by Kettlewell
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Thats just retarded
If it was pon pon it would be written as such
Pan-pan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ah, beaten to by so many.
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27-02-2013, 00:53
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
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Originally Posted by Coops
Nobody over here drinks Fosters anymore, well, hardly anybody. It fell completely out of favour here years ago and I would suggest that it sells more overseas than it does at home. There is a beer in Queensland which calls itself XXXX. The reason being that Queenslanders cannot spell beer so they say. By the way XXXX is rubbish beer, in every way.
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Yep xxxx is bloody awful....... but how many Beers have their own island as good as this ?..... XXXX Island | The ultimate destination for mates’ trips away
My anchor is going to be spending a bit of time on the bottom there that’s for sure....
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27-02-2013, 01:15
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Originally Posted by IslandHopper
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C'mon, IslandHoppers and Coops! At least we can all agree that no true Aussie drinks that fosters nun piss crap.
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27-02-2013, 01:49
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
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Originally Posted by Adelie
At 0:38 in this video pilot/copilot declares pan pan pan (pronounced Pahn)
Different flier, different pronunciation.
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A woman speaking english in a French accident - i'll forgive her anything .
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27-02-2013, 01:56
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
Dave (goboatingnow) is correct on this. The correct pronunciation is the french one. He is also right in that it was chosen so everyone around the world would understand the message.
Americans, generally have a problem with foreign languages, so they are trying to change the pronunciation to PON PON, Silence and Security (along with having buoys that conform to International standard B).
I realize that many americans will never visit a foreign country, but when on the radio, it is best to say it correctly. Otherwise help may not arrive..........
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27-02-2013, 02:49
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
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Originally Posted by Jimbo485
C'mon, IslandHoppers and Coops! At least we can all agree that no true Aussie drinks that fosters nun piss crap.
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As you know Jimbo Fosters is only for the tourists, after all it is the stuff leftover after the holding tank has been pumped outl.....
No self respecting Aussie would touch the stuff....
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27-02-2013, 03:16
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
As a pilot we have always been taught Pan Pan. Pon Pon I have never heard and I guess is some sort of American or other colloquialism? Pon Pon is certainly not the international distress call.
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27-02-2013, 03:23
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
Its funny that the USCG mispronounces it!
The only place in the world and they have to claim they are right instead of correcting themselves.
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27-02-2013, 03:26
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Re: PAN PAN....OR PON PON
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Originally Posted by Adelie
At 0:38 in this video pilot/copilot declares pan pan pan (pronounced Pahn)
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Just occurred to me that she might be trying to pronounce the word PAN in English! rather than her native french (she sounds french ) and that to her the word PAN looks like it should be pronounced as "Pahn" - otherwise it would be spelt Panne .
Now, about that word Bouy .
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