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Old 13-02-2018, 05:49   #31
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The lawyers seem to do a lot of the engineering today. They will tell engineering to set the spec for resin to glass ratio of the hull so low that a dry layup will "meet spec". Then when the wheels fall off they can do a "full investigation" and say the hull layup met spec and therefore it must have hit something. The jury will gobble it up. Resin infused hulls save resin, weight, and most of all money. Quality isn't a consideration.

I should open a thread about healthcare in the US. You wouldn't believe what goes on and who profits from it though.
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One owner of a 90's Mercedes Benz having issues with his car doesn't disprove the fact that the quality of build was higher back than then they are today, and for reasons explained.

I didn't know the English had any car classics either, ok, they got a few.

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The emission issue doesn't suggest bad build quality either, it more suggests that there isn't much more that can be done with a technology that has been around for about a 100 years now, fuel consumption isn't helped much with cars getting heavier and heavier either.
This the second merc I've owned with identical and very well documented problems (by numerous owners on the MB forums), biodegradable wiring, gearbox faults, suspension failures I could go on, but the other half likes them and they can be picked up cheaply because of the faults.
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This the second merc I've owned with identical and very well documented problems (by numerous owners on the MB forums), biodegradable wiring, gearbox faults, suspension failures I could go on, but the other half likes them and they can be picked up cheaply because of the faults.
Good reasons to buy a second one I guess.
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As any real biker will tell you.. want a real and reliable mo'bike.. buy a Rice Burner..
Want a weekly project.. buy a Triumph.
Want a sedate fat old man pose machine.. buy a Harley
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They can't sail faster than their theoretical hull speed.
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Nobody but me is wondering that the Brits invented the WWW?
I didn’t know Al Gore was British?
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The proper way is for Company A to own the primary assets: name, trademarks, designs, proprietary data, intellectual property, etc.

Company B owns all of the other assets: the land, buildings, tools, equipment, vehicles, materials, etc. Company A, owns Company B.

Company C is the service company only and owns no assets, but provides the employees and is the FACE of the company, temporarily leasing the rights to the name and trademarks. Company A owns Company C.

Clients pay for the services of Company C. Company C pays it employees, Pays Company B for use of assets, and Company A the remainder of its profit.

Company A should always be flush with cash as it has no liabilities. Company B runs at a small profit and has minimal liabilities, with assets backing each liability. Company C only has liabilities which are paid via accounts receivable.

Since Company C is the Face of the business, and holds no assets, when it goes bankrupt, Company A simply restarts a new Company C and continues on, rehiring all of the laid off employees from the old Company C.

Now you know why large US and European companies never actually go bankrupt (besides other political factors.)
Well, it's not that simple. The banks and vendors are not idiots and will generally not lend money or extend credit to some "Company C" with no assets, particularly if there are other assets in the group.

There are also tax issues with that kind of structure.

It's not being simple is of course why there are tens of thousands of tax and finance experts in the City.
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Nobody but me is wondering that the Brits invented the WWW?
I didn’t know Al Gore was British?
I was thinking the same thing but was afraid to post it.
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Nobody but me is wondering that the Brits invented the WWW?
I didn’t know Al Gore was British?
Who said the British invented anything on that list, they didn't, the English did.

British isn't synonymous with English, or vice versa.
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As any real biker will tell you.. want a real and reliable mo'bike.. buy a Rice Burner..
Want a weekly project.. buy a Triumph.
Want a sedate fat old man pose machine.. buy a Harley
Want a buy a drive shaft problem buy a BMW.
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Want a buy a drive shaft problem buy a BMW.
Ya'll forgot about Italian motorcycles, the finest in the world. Nothing beats their quality and reliability.

They're not too expensive either when comparing to their English, German, and Japanese counterparts.
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Poor *English engineering.

Don't include the Scots and the Welsh and the Northern Irish saying British.

Oyster is English, as are most sailboat builders in Britain, both past and present

Just because the English came up with it doesn't mean the quality of engineering is good.

Quality of engineering should most of the times be left to the Germans, no, not the tea drinking ones a.k.a. the Anglo-Saxons

You do make finer sailboats thou, no questioning that. Credit where credit's due.
How many times does one see a German engine in a sailboat these days..
or Swedish.. Volvo has become a dirty word.
Now take a 100 year old company and you have a success story called Yamar..
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How many times does one see a German engine in a sailboat these days..
or Swedish.. Volvo has become a dirty word.
Now take a 100 year old company and you have a success story called Yamar..
Yammies are great engines but we really like our new Beta...oh my god they are British and Japanese
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Yammies are great engines but we really like our new Beta...oh my god they are British and Japanese
Beta are Kubota, Japanese.
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Yammies are great engines but we really like our new Beta...oh my god they are British and Japanese
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