Jolly Roger, Pirates and Political Correctness

[sailorboy1]

Originally Posted by minaret

All I'm saying is that if you cant fly a pirate flag because 200 yrs ago people who did bad things flew it, then you probably shouldn't fly any national flag either, because most nations are responsible for much worse atrocities on a far larger scale, and probably a lot more recently....

If you want to fly the muddering thieves flag go ahead. No one has tried to tell you you can not. But saying it means some carefree lifestyle to others doesn't cut it (a cruising boat says that without any flag).

But you don't get any more current than the current pirate issue. Pirates are muddering theives and that is just all there is of it.

[boatman61]

There's a Pub on Poole Quay I like to frequent called the Jolly Roger... popular with bikers and boaters... some good music nights to be had...
Am I being un-PC...??
or does this only apply to flying the flag....

[Bash]

Originally Posted by Jolly Roger

Would I not be welcome in some anchorages?

It's not that you wouldn't be welcome--it's just that people are not going to take you as a serious cruiser if you're doing the pirate thing.

[sailorboy1]

Originally Posted by boatman61

There's a Pub on Poole Quay I like to frequent called the Jolly Roger... popular with bikers and boaters... some good music nights to be had...
Am I being un-PC...??
or does this only apply to flying the flag....

wouldn't it really depend on what goes on inside?

[markpierce]

Originally Posted by Jolly Roger

I had a notion to rename my new boat “Jolly Roger” after Hook's ship, and because my name is Roger and I have been know to be quite Jolly—especially after a few pints of Boddingtons.
However, after reading all this stuff I’m not so sure. Would I not be welcome in some anchorages? Would it be just too complicated on the VHF “Hello, this is Roger from Jolly Roger, would you mind taking down your Jolly Roger—thank you, Roger and out.”
Mine is indeed a very much used name.

I wouldn't use the name "Roger" or "Jolly Roger" if for no other reason than "roger" is a radio procedure word meaning "received and understood."

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Don Lucas

wouldn't it really depend on what goes on inside?

Good music...
Real ale...
and women get better looking by the hour and pints....

[Matt sachs]

Originally Posted by markpierce

I wouldn't use the name "Roger" or "Jolly Roger" if for no other reason than "roger" is a radio procedure word meaning "received and understood."

Roger roger, whats your vector Victor.....ahh the good old movies..

[NeptunesTrident]

Originally Posted by Don Lucas

If you want to fly the muddering thieves flag go ahead. No one has tried to tell you you can not. But saying it means some carefree lifestyle to others doesn't cut it (a cruising boat says that without any flag).

But you don't get any more current than the current pirate issue. Pirates are muddering theives and that is just all there is of it.

Oh please, dude. Lets be realistic here. In the fist place, pirates, real pirates, up untill the 19th century never even knew what a skull and cross bones was. They used a plain ole' black flag. I don't know of more than two, (2), documented pirates that ever used a Jolly Roger. Acts of piracy date back to the 13th century BC. Most pirates were privateers, commissioned by some goverment to raid ships of other nations. Did they kill? Yes. Did they maim? Yes, they did. And those that were successful were good at it.

Were there Blackbeards? Those outlaws of all nations? Sure there were. But not near as many as you might think.

Pirates have been with us for eons. And will be with us to the end. The only diffrence between a pirate and bank robber, is the mode of escape. A pirate uses a boat. And to be so focused on a single item as the cause or symbol of outlaw behaviour, is childish.

[NeptunesTrident]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Good music...
Real ale...
and women get better looking by the hour and pints....

I thought it was in an hour with enough pints...

[Punx]

Originally Posted by Bash

It's not that you wouldn't be welcome--it's just that people are not going to take you as a serious cruiser if you're doing the pirate thing.

Not everyone wants to be regarded as a serious cruiser. I'm 25 and I work full time in a professional environment. The last thing I want to be thought of outside the office is serious.

[boatman61]

Guess I'm a slow drinker... but then I like to savour my ale so its only about
3 n a half an hour... but there's sure a lotta lovely ladies around come 11-12pm...

[capttman]

Wow, some times things just are not worth discussing.. Enjoy your Jolly Roger..

[sailorboy1]

Dude, I'm not and don't want to be a dude! If someone wants to be a dude by all means I'm fine with YOU flying the muddering theives flag to identify yourself.

I think I'm going to fly a rubber ducky flag instead.

[sailorboy1]

Originally Posted by boatman61

.. but there's sure a lotta lovely ladies around come 11-12pm...

What did they look like at 6pm?

[NeptunesTrident]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Guess I'm a slow drinker... but then I like to savour my ale so its only about
3 n a half an hour... but there's sure a lotta lovely ladies around come 11-12pm...

PM? No wonder I miss out!