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21-07-2011, 10:32
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: East Tennessee
Boat: 1989 50 ft Roberts
Posts: 859
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Re: Is Boating Dangerous ?
I'm not 45 yet, I guess that improves my odds, but on the other hand I know squat about sailing so I'm going to go hide under my bed....
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21-07-2011, 10:34
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Bristol, RI
Boat: Beneteau 34'
Posts: 153
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Unicorn Dreams
neither boating nor cars are dangerous for the most part.
It's the operators judgment that is questionable.
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Although keep in mind - as a whole - we have requirements (training periods, DMV tests, and Insurance) before people are allowed to get behind the wheel of a car
Any Joe with enough money can buy themselves a boat - and off they go!
And there seem to be a lot of people that do just that
The guy who was docked behind me bought a brand new 40' boat - took ZERO lessons and had no experience.
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21-07-2011, 11:16
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Clear Lake Marine Services - Seabrook, Texas
Boat: Gulfstar, Mark II Ketch, 43'
Posts: 2,359
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Re: Is Boating Dangerous ?
It's no different driving a car. A written test a 12 year old who studies the book for 2-3 days can pass.
I gave my granddaughter the booklet for the CDL written test, she studied the book for 1 week while I was on the road, got back gave her the test and she only missed 2 questions. Does that make her qualified to drive a 40 ton truck, YES by the test, but not by legal age or mindset.
I believe the DMV test are so moronic that if you cannot pass the test, you shouldn't even be a passenger in a car much less drive one.
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Formerly Santana
The winds blow true,The skies stay blue,
Everyday is a good day for SAILING!!!!
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21-07-2011, 11:28
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#19
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northern British Columbia, part of the time in Prince Rupert and part of the time on Moresby Island.
Boat: 50-ft steel Ketch
Posts: 1,884
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Re: Is Boating Dangerous ?
Quote:
Yes Sir! I was in the bar the other night and was just looking at my boat when I fell off the stool!
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That should be boat watching while intoxicated is dangerous.
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21-07-2011, 11:33
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,594
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Re: Is Boating Dangerous ?
It's a by product of the 24 hour news we have now.
Good news doesn't sell nearly as well as bad.
Search and you'll find lots of info on our current inability as a society to determine and react to what is REALLY our biggest threats.
It ain't boating for sure, or pirates, or bad guys wanting to blow up planes.
For most it's the idiot on the cell phone in the next lane.
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Cape Dory 25D Seraph
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21-07-2011, 11:59
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Clear Lake Marine Services - Seabrook, Texas
Boat: Gulfstar, Mark II Ketch, 43'
Posts: 2,359
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Re: Is Boating Dangerous ?
Dangerous
According to another thread about like jackets, I believe the deaths in small boats was 674???? for the year mentioned. Roughly what the number for cars os in 2 days in the USA.
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Formerly Santana
The winds blow true,The skies stay blue,
Everyday is a good day for SAILING!!!!
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21-07-2011, 12:06
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: 3rd wave passed the sea wall
Boat: private yacht always moving
Posts: 1,388
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Re: Is boating dangerous?
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ
Yes Sir! I was in the bar the other night and was just looking at my boat when I fell off the stool!
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you should know that drinking and boating do not mix. You might spill you drink!
Captainkj (Forum name not real name, hope that is OK to use).
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21-07-2011, 12:06
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Bristol, RI
Boat: Beneteau 34'
Posts: 153
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Unicorn Dreams
Dangerous
According to another thread about like jackets, I believe the deaths in small boats was 674???? for the year mentioned. Roughly what the number for cars os in 2 days in the USA.
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Yeah but put that number as a percentage of people who drive or use cars for transportation!
The the total number of people that use, own or ride in a boat is MILLIONS less than cars. So deaths overall as an aggregate number is going to be MUCH less
And if they do get in a boat - it is HOURS less usage than riding in a car. For example I am in my car two hours each day - just for work. Then add up all other times during the week - maybe another 15 hours.
Then I am only on my boat for a six hour sail on a Saturday.
Your figures are misleading.
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21-07-2011, 12:09
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
Boat: Ketch, Hardin 45
Posts: 440
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Re: Is Boating Dangerous ?
According to the statistics here: It is safer to be on the water then in your car....
So that is why I'm getting a sail boat that is big enough to change my mind and pants without having to step outside...
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21-07-2011, 12:19
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,674
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Re: Is Boating Dangerous ?
Boating is dangerous if you get too close to me...........so be sure to give me a clear path!
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21-07-2011, 12:24
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Satellite Beach Florida
Boat: Bruce Roberts 434
Posts: 716
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Re: Is Boating Dangerous ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailagain
Although keep in mind - as a whole - we have requirements (training periods, DMV tests, and Insurance) before people are allowed to get behind the wheel of a car
Any Joe with enough money can buy themselves a boat - and off they go!
And there seem to be a lot of people that do just that
The guy who was docked behind me bought a brand new 40' boat - took ZERO lessons and had no experience.
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and the problem with that is???
let us keep regulating our freedoms away
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"When the bow be in the trees we'll be running out of seas"
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21-07-2011, 12:28
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#27
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Bristol, RI
Boat: Beneteau 34'
Posts: 153
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capttman
and the problem with that is???
let us keep regulating our freedoms away
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So you would advocate repealing all legislation that regulates car use? Sounds great! Freeeedom
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21-07-2011, 12:28
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Clear Lake Marine Services - Seabrook, Texas
Boat: Gulfstar, Mark II Ketch, 43'
Posts: 2,359
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Re: Is Boating Dangerous ?
Space shuttle is safer if you figure deaths/per mile.
I drove full time, not part time, 155-160,000 miles per year, over 4.000.000 accident free miles. Went out in the boat the other day and hit bottom. 3 bumps on 60.000+ miles sailing, does that make me more dangerous in the boat. PROBABLY, all depends on how you want to look at it. Now I drive 0 miles per week, watch out for my boat.
Why not repeal car driving licensing, it was free until some legislator came up with the slogan/Driving is a PRIVILEGE not a RIGHT. Great money making campaign.
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Formerly Santana
The winds blow true,The skies stay blue,
Everyday is a good day for SAILING!!!!
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21-07-2011, 12:37
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Bristol, RI
Boat: Beneteau 34'
Posts: 153
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Unicorn Dreams
Space shuttle is safer if you figure deaths/per mile.
I drove full time, not part time, 155-160,000 miles per year, over 4.000.000 accident free miles. Went out in the boat the other day and hit bottom. 3 bumps on 60.000+ miles sailing, does that make me more dangerous in the boat. PROBABLY, all depends on how you want to look at it. Now I drive 0 miles per week, watch out for my boat.
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Good point
I think right now the amount of people that use boats (as an overall number and hourly usage) is so low that there is no interest or need for in regulation. It's like the first days of the car when there was little regulations on drivers
If the usage of boats ever started to approach cars - there would be many Regulations imposed - licensing and insurance being the first (right now my state requires neither)
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21-07-2011, 12:53
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#30
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Wash DC
Boat: PETERSON 44
Posts: 3,165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ
Yes Sir! I was in the bar the other night and was just looking at my boat when I fell off the stool!
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Tipped a canoe over last night had my phone been in my pocket it would have been ruined. Did this fully clothed with an audience in 1' of water. After thousands of miles sailing my reputation is shambles. Of course I regained composure and asked the women in the nearby power boat who were having difficulties if they wished me to help. They declined but many were in tears from the laughter including me.
On the other hand I flipped my dink years ago fully clad in cold water. No one saw me and it is no laughing thing I survived. Now I have floaties and teathers short tethers. Not being mindful and punrepared is dangerous if your mindless unprepared and on the water you should be concerned.
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