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08-03-2021, 22:51
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Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
The ASA recently decided to change a hindreds of years old term critical to boating safety for politically correct reasons. I’ve been warned that identifying the term is trolling, so to not violate political correctness in general is specific sailing associations changing sailing terms for political correctness sake worthy of discussion on this site.
It seems like changing a term that everyone knows and accepts puts people’s lives in danger.
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09-03-2021, 01:48
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
"Harden up to a broad" was always a snicker away from a mutiny.[emoji6]
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09-03-2021, 05:08
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
What about calling someone a “lazy sheet”?
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09-03-2021, 05:37
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
GPS units have had POB buttons for some years now. Nothing new here.
In a generation we won't even remember, so move on. Seems silly, I've ranted too, but little things do matter.
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09-03-2021, 06:30
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
The real question is, does the term "Person Overboard" offend you? If it doesn't, then who cares? If I yell "Person Overboard" not a single person will hesitate wondering what that means.
If you ARE offended by "person overboard", please explain it.
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09-03-2021, 06:42
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
That Garmin button should be something like SALLY/POB just to he on the safe side.
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09-03-2021, 07:02
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
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Originally Posted by wholybee
The real question is, does the term "Person Overboard" offend you? If it doesn't, then who cares? If I yell "Person Overboard" not a single person will hesitate wondering what that means.
If you ARE offended by "person overboard", please explain it.
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Kidding asside.. it doesn't offend me, it is more a reluctance to unlearn nautical terms that have endured thru the ages and are ingrained into my training.
Also Try this
Loudly YELL:
PERSON!
MAN!
Now, ....Which sound caries better on a stormy night?
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09-03-2021, 07:09
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
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Originally Posted by Pelagic
...it doesn't offend me, it is more a reluctance to unlearn nautical terms...
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Then don't. I mean, you don't really think that if you yell "man overboard!" your crew will be confused and not know what to do, do you?
So yell what you want, and let other people yell what they want. No one is so dumb that they won't know what is going on, regardless of whether you yell "man," "person," or "crew."
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09-03-2021, 07:43
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
So, it's nice to see that the second go round on this thread is much more enlightened!
I'm a little puzzled why OP feels the need to create another thread for the same reasons after the first one was killed though.
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09-03-2021, 08:01
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
I don't care who yells what. What I care about is how come the rail meat can't stay on the boat.
I mean it's like every time the boy/buoy goes sailing he/she/xi falls overboard. What's with that?
It's like someone wants us to do a MOB drill or something...
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09-03-2021, 08:02
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
Quote:
Originally Posted by wholybee
The real question is, does the term "Person Overboard" offend you? If it doesn't, then who cares? If I yell "Person Overboard" not a single person will hesitate wondering what that means.
If you ARE offended by "person overboard", please explain it.
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It does not offend me.. 
I just think it's childish and stupid but.. if it gets people off with this stupidity then more power to their wrists..
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09-03-2021, 08:05
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
To answer the title of your OP: no, it does not offend me and I see nothing to discuss.
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09-03-2021, 08:19
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
As long as they don't change "cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey" I'm ok.
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09-03-2021, 08:24
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Re: Is ASA changing safety terms for political correctness worth discussing?
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Originally Posted by flightlead404
As long as they don't change "cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey" I'm ok.
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Its now "Cold enough to freeze the accouterments off a multi mineral ape".
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