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Old 14-09-2021, 00:50   #46
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"...We have people out there lying about their trips around the world and asking for donations..."

around here ("forest cities") we have a very apt term for those people who give them money: they pay "fool's taxe" (it is nicer in S-Kraut: "Deppensteuer")
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Regardless of the current use in pop culture and the media of the name "Karen", it still pisses me off when people use this name to describe someone who exhibits childish or unacceptable behavior. Use your own name however you wish, but I had a very dear sister in law taken by cancer, and I don't like to see her name misused.

Certainly not to describe this guy who is apparently unhappy with some circumnavigators.

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a friend of ours & very accomplished Austrian circumnavigatrice named Karen-3RTW with Husband & later husband & son we know of - passed away in her 40s with cancer.
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I don't know how the Karen's feel but I have two friends, one named Dick and the other Randy, who seem to handle things OK
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I don't know how the Karen's feel but I have two friends, one named Dick and the other Randy, who seem to handle things OK
They seem a pretty pissed off people to me...
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So if I'm standing 3' from the North or South Pole, walk in a circle around either, does my 10' perambulation count as a circumnavigation?
Requirements for circumnavigations:
  1. Cross all meridians at least once in the same direction
  2. Travel at least the length of the equator (21600 nm)
  3. (sometimes ignored) cross at least one antipodal point on your travels. At least once you need to be at a point opposite across the middle of the earth where you where earlier in your trip.
No, you don't cover the second and the third requirement.
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Yeah, well, since the entire concept is pretty subjective, I'd call a Northern or Southern Hemispherian ocean voyage through 360 degrees of longitude a circumnavigation.

On Earth with the current land-mass configuration at any rate...
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Yeah, well, since the entire concept is pretty subjective, I'd call a Northern or Southern Hemispherian ocean voyage through 360 degrees of longitude a circumnavigation.

On Earth with the current land-mass configuration at any rate...
You'll encounter a little problems sailing across the south pole. It's pretty far inland. As soon as you go around Antarctica, you have all your meridians.

And should you cross a pole directly, you also cross all meridians. So both ways, you'd be fine.
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Here is a quote from the Ocean Cruising Club:
"continuous circumnvagation entirely on water"
https://oceancruisingclub.org/Circumnavigators
One would think that something called the Ocean Cruising Club would be able to spell circumnavigation.
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You'll encounter a little problems sailing across the south pole. It's pretty far inland. As soon as you go around Antarctica, you have all your meridians.

And should you cross a pole directly, you also cross all meridians. So both ways, you'd be fine.
Yeah, well, the 'hemispherian' point was to cover the (pretty ridiculous)
'antipodean' criteria of 'official' circumnavigations.

And, believe it or not, I'm aware of the postion of the South Pole, as well as the North, and the inability of both to be to be circled, or even reached, by a conveyance on liquid water within at least a few hundred miles, in most instances much more.
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Sorry she died. Not sorry for using the term.

Karen is more acceptable in polite company than C unt. IMO


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Karen is more acceptable in polite company
I wouldn't consider racism to be compatible with "polite" company.
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I wouldn't consider racism to be compatible with "polite" company.

i wouldn't consider that "a karen" is a race....
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i wouldn't consider that "a karen" is a race....
It's a pejorative term for a white woman. Therefore it is racist.
Not to mention, a wee bit sexist too.
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We've allowed a troll (who's long since gone) start us arguing about his interpretation of a circumnavigation and digressed into an argument about social meaning and implications of the slang term "Karen".
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We've allowed a troll (who's long since gone) start us arguing about his interpretation of a circumnavigation and digressed into an argument about social meaning and implications of the slang term "Karen".

But, It's somewhat entertaining.
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