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14-09-2021, 00:50
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
"...We have people out there lying about their trips around the world and asking for donations..."
around here ("forest cities") we have a very apt term for those people who give them money: they pay "fool's taxe" (it is nicer in S-Kraut: "Deppensteuer")
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14-09-2021, 00:58
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by steve77
Regardless of the current use in pop culture and the media of the name "Karen", it still pisses me off when people use this name to describe someone who exhibits childish or unacceptable behavior. Use your own name however you wish, but I had a very dear sister in law taken by cancer, and I don't like to see her name misused.
Certainly not to describe this guy who is apparently unhappy with some circumnavigators.
Steve
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I agree!
a friend of ours & very accomplished Austrian circumnavigatrice named Karen-3RTW with Husband & later husband & son we know of - passed away in her 40s with cancer.
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14-09-2021, 04:34
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
I don't know how the Karen's feel but I have two friends, one named Dick and the other Randy, who seem to handle things OK
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14-09-2021, 04:45
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by Paul L
I don't know how the Karen's feel but I have two friends, one named Dick and the other Randy, who seem to handle things OK
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They seem a pretty pissed off people to me...
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14-09-2021, 05:07
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by jimbunyard
So if I'm standing 3' from the North or South Pole, walk in a circle around either, does my 10' perambulation count as a circumnavigation?
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Requirements for circumnavigations:
- Cross all meridians at least once in the same direction
- Travel at least the length of the equator (21600 nm)
- (sometimes ignored) cross at least one antipodal point on your travels. At least once you need to be at a point opposite across the middle of the earth where you where earlier in your trip.
No, you don't cover the second and the third requirement.
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14-09-2021, 06:38
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Yeah, well, since the entire concept is pretty subjective, I'd call a Northern or Southern Hemispherian ocean voyage through 360 degrees of longitude a circumnavigation.
On Earth with the current land-mass configuration at any rate...
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14-09-2021, 06:51
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by jimbunyard
Yeah, well, since the entire concept is pretty subjective, I'd call a Northern or Southern Hemispherian ocean voyage through 360 degrees of longitude a circumnavigation.
On Earth with the current land-mass configuration at any rate...
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You'll encounter a little problems sailing across the south pole. It's pretty far inland. As soon as you go around Antarctica, you have all your meridians.
And should you cross a pole directly, you also cross all meridians. So both ways, you'd be fine.
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14-09-2021, 07:09
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by zamber
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One would think that something called the Ocean Cruising Club would be able to spell circumnavigation.
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14-09-2021, 07:44
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by Joh.Ghurt
You'll encounter a little problems sailing across the south pole. It's pretty far inland. As soon as you go around Antarctica, you have all your meridians.
And should you cross a pole directly, you also cross all meridians. So both ways, you'd be fine.
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Yeah, well, the 'hemispherian' point was to cover the (pretty ridiculous)
'antipodean' criteria of 'official' circumnavigations.
And, believe it or not, I'm aware of the postion of the South Pole, as well as the North, and the inability of both to be to be circled, or even reached, by a conveyance on liquid water within at least a few hundred miles, in most instances much more.
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14-09-2021, 09:12
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by Cheyne
Sorry she died. Not sorry for using the term.
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Karen is more acceptable in polite company than C unt. IMO
Wish my wife was brave enough to let us do a world wide tour... maybe one day...
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14-09-2021, 10:21
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by marcjsmith
Karen is more acceptable in polite company
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I wouldn't consider racism to be compatible with "polite" company.
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14-09-2021, 10:27
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by Lodesman
I wouldn't consider racism to be compatible with "polite" company.
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i wouldn't consider that "a karen" is a race....
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14-09-2021, 10:29
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by marcjsmith
i wouldn't consider that "a karen" is a race....
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It's a pejorative term for a white woman. Therefore it is racist.
Not to mention, a wee bit sexist too.
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14-09-2021, 10:42
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Troll: 1
Cruisers Forum: 0
We've allowed a troll (who's long since gone) start us arguing about his interpretation of a circumnavigation and digressed into an argument about social meaning and implications of the slang term "Karen".
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14-09-2021, 10:46
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrew
Troll: 1
Cruisers Forum: 0
We've allowed a troll (who's long since gone) start us arguing about his interpretation of a circumnavigation and digressed into an argument about social meaning and implications of the slang term "Karen".
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But, It's somewhat entertaining.
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