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11-09-2021, 21:49
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Lets also not forget that if the boat has an engine and used it for propulsion at any time, then this also disqualifies the claim of "sailing around the world" though they may claim to circumnavigate.
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11-09-2021, 22:18
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#32
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Folks...if you check Zambers previous threads, you can clearly see that he is a troll. He just loves that he can get peoples hair on end here. He has no boat, no life.
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11-09-2021, 22:28
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailmonkey
Is this a real problem?
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Only if you are a fake sailer.
Just noticed Celestialsailor beat me to it.
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11-09-2021, 22:43
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by seandepagnier
Lets also not forget that if the boat has an engine and used it for propulsion at any time, then this also disqualifies the claim of "sailing around the world" though they may claim to circumnavigate.
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So no using an engine to enter a harbor? If I read you right
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11-09-2021, 23:04
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#35
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bellingham
Boat: Outbound 44
Posts: 9,319
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailmonkey
Is this a real problem?
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No, it's a troll.
No one trucks a boat across the Panama Canal, as proposed as a big deal by the OP. It would cost more and take longer by the time you organized the bailouts at each end.
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11-09-2021, 23:51
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: South Africa
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
People lie about any and everything.
People lie about their golf score.
I am sure they lie about their miles, circumnavigation, single handed or not!
Big deal, they need to live with their lies, can’t see how it effects anyone else!
But yes, lying Troll for sure!
Fun read non the less!
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12-09-2021, 14:52
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Marine Service Provider
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Location: La Paz, Mexico
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
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Originally Posted by zamber
A lot of these circumnavigations that people claim are fake.
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As are many posters on Cruising forum....
I present to to the ladies and gentlemen of the Cruising Forum Jury as Exhibit A, this thread.
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12-09-2021, 15:17
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#38
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: oriental
Boat: crowther trimaran 33
Posts: 4,449
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Quote:
Originally Posted by AKA-None
So no using an engine to enter a harbor? If I read you right
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Like the guy who "swam" across the pacific but got on a boat to sleep each night and they motored back to where he got out of the water because the boat drifts at night.
I guess technically if you motor to exactly where you were then it could be allowed. But we all know people don't do this, or are off by a few meters so generally speaking, anyone with an engine is disqualified.
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12-09-2021, 15:25
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#39
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Quote:
Originally Posted by AKA-None
So no using an engine to enter a harbor? If I read you right
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I believe that's just what he did.. Sculling in is a very feasible option, there was a guy used to do that on his Wharram Oro.
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12-09-2021, 18:23
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Yeah, my first cruising boat was a 25' cutter I sailed on Puget Sound for two years without an engine, only a sculling oar. Man that sucked.
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13-09-2021, 17:22
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: 2024 - Colombia, 2025 - Panama
Boat: Amazon 49 cutter, custom steel boat built in Surrey, Canada
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheyne
Okay Karen...
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Regardless of the current use in pop culture and the media of the name "Karen", it still pisses me off when people use this name to describe someone who exhibits childish or unacceptable behavior. Use your own name however you wish, but I had a very dear sister in law taken by cancer, and I don't like to see her name misused.
Certainly not to describe this guy who is apparently unhappy with some circumnavigators.
Steve
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13-09-2021, 17:29
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#42
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Urbanna, VA
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Quote:
Originally Posted by steve77
Regardless of the current use in pop culture and the media of the name "Karen", it still pisses me off when people use this name to describe someone who exhibits childish or unacceptable behavior. Use your own name however you wish, but I had a very dear sister in law taken by cancer, and I don't like to see her name misused.
Certainly not to describe this guy who is apparently unhappy with some circumnavigators.
Steve
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Sorry she died. Not sorry for using the term.
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13-09-2021, 23:46
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#43
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: Jeanneau 41 DS
Posts: 559
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Quote:
Originally Posted by aqfishing
People lie about any and everything.
People lie about their golf score.
I am sure they lie about their miles, circumnavigation, single handed or not!
Big deal, they need to live with their lies, can’t see how it effects anyone else!
But yes, lying Troll for sure!
Fun read non the less!
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13-09-2021, 23:58
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#44
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Slidell, La.
Boat: Morgan Classic 33
Posts: 2,845
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
Quote:
Originally Posted by zamber
Sorry, but all around the world is 100%. A circle is 360 degrees, going only 359 means the circle was not completed.
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So if I'm standing 3' from the North or South Pole, walk in a circle around either, does my 10' perambulation count as a circumnavigation?
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14-09-2021, 00:29
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Texas and Taiwan
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Re: Fake Circumnavigations
This Thread just made me realize that I made a circumnavigation in 2016. I navigated by air from Taiwan to Cape Town S.A. via Beijing China. Then I sailed/navigated from Cape Town to Annapolis Md. Then I navigated via air to Texas and then on back to Taiwan, Only took me 6 months. I will not lie though, I did not go solo.
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