Dock and Dash

[Group9]

Originally Posted by Amapola

We frequently see this at the Exuma Park moorings except at the Park HQ.

I would imagine it happens a lot with anchoring there, too, now that they charge for that, as well.

[Gerrit Coetzee]

[QUOTE=svmariane;3129969]Well, as my Dad would say, taking something without paying for it makes you a thief. Even if it's just scrambling over a stone wall and picking a few apples from an orchard. Maybe nobody sees you - maybe somebody does.

Either you're a thief, or you're not. If a person is a thief then why would anybody else trust them with anything? Now what kind of reputation do you want to have, out there in the world?

I went back to the orchard, to their roadside stand, and bought a small basket of apples. Handed two back and told the girl that I'd already sampled a couple from the orchard. ] (end Quote)


Oh I am going to get beaten over this one, but I hope not.


Might open a can of worms, depending on which side of the coin you choose to stand.

Stealing is not so easy judged. Stealing without owner's consent is not always prosecutable, not alwas illegally and is not always even a sin!


Stealing something in desperation is many a time excusable- whether we agree to it or like it or not.

In terms of the principle in law "de minimus non curat lex" determines that the law does not take cognizance of trivial matters.

Even in the given example the bible does not equate that a sin as Deut.23:24-25 fully allows taking of fruit without consent and declare it not a sin. Even in Ruth it is said that the owner when harvesting are not allowed to pick up any dropped harvest and must leave it to be collected by others.

Thus nothing in life is always as clear cut and dry as one may believe.

Around these principles other matters are arranged.

I do not say what was done was either right nor wrong. What I do say is that we should be slower to judge.

On the surface it looks apprehending but be cautious of being the tax collector who prayed " thank you God I am not like this man".

A fuel dock's primary cause of existence is income generation through fuel sales. Overnight docking is not. Using electricity etc and not paying is thus questionable but they can be friendly as be, or as new boat as possible, we don't know their personal circumstances. An emergency may or may not have happened overnight - but their (possible illegal) conduct sets a dangerous trap for everyone who may jump in and judge precariously . It is not our fight, it is not of our loss, but what me might be quilty of, is judging in a matter not for our calling.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Gerrit Coetzee

...Stealing is not so easy judged. Stealing without owner's consent is not always prosecutable, not alwas illegally and is not always even a sin!

Stealing something in desperation is many a time excusable- whether we agree to it or like it or not.

Leaving aside all the religious references, I completely agree. This is why I wrote "intention and circumstances do matter." But I still think it's going to be a hard stretch to find a valid excuse in the case being discussed.

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by Amapola

We frequently see this at the Exuma Park moorings except at the Park HQ.

This year I dropped anchor behind this little island with a few other boats in strong winds, I wasn’t gong ashore in the dinghy to put money in a box, not in those winds, so I didn’t pay.

[RuskinDiver]

I really enjoyed most of the replies in this topic. It sounds like most of us are honest and forthcoming which is a good feeling. I myself (being a business owner most of my life) would not do something to a business/person that I would not like done to me/my business. I really liked the replies that stated they would do everything they could possibly do to "make things right" !

I have in the past when the business was not open , use the simple and honest way of leaving a note with my info along with what I "think" may be the charge in the pay slot or under the door/etc. That way I cover at least one base at the start, then call the business/person when I next can, or, they contact me!

Going through life like this I can sleep at night, and live life with a smile on my face.

A person never knows when he/she were seen doing wrong or indifferent , and one never knows when you will have to seek assistance from a place, person, or business that you done wrong.

Stay Honest, sleep well, live life

[barnakiel]

In any community there will be a rotten apple.


Identify, report, eradicate.


Maybe they left something in the box???



b.

[wsmurdoch]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

This year I dropped anchor behind this little island with a few other boats in strong winds, I wasn’t gong ashore in the dinghy to put money in a box, not in those winds, so I didn’t pay.

You can still pay by credit card at their web site. No problem.

https://bnt.bs/payexumapark/

Bill

[rbyham]

I used to visit Dons marine surplus in Clearwater. Very helpful on the wallet as I was conducting a significant refit and did not always need new parts. Anyway if you have been there he has several acres of boat parts and a fun place to browse. Some of his stuff is in 18 wheeler trailers. As I was browsing one day I noticed one of the trailers locked. When I asked a worker what was so precious that this one trailer had to be locked he said, "that is all our sailing hardware most of it stainless... can't trust sailors not to pocket the occasional souvenir." Being a sailor myself I initially thought it funny but then I realized he was not laughing. Ever since I have been careful to always pay my way being conscious that my actions may reflect on a whole class.