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29-06-2018, 07:34
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wilmington NC
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Captains licence
Can any one tell me what books I might need to buy....I'm preparing to take my captains licence...thank you
I will be taking a class at the local college. Just want to get a head start...thank you
Mark
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29-06-2018, 08:55
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Re: Captains licence
Which liscence?
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29-06-2018, 09:10
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Re: Captains licence
What country?
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29-06-2018, 09:23
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Location: 2025 - Panama
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Re: Captains licence
I would recommend a current copy of the Colregs and NOAA chart 1. You will also need dividers and whatever version of a protractor you like to use. Parallel rules are helpful, also.
Not sure what your class will provide for written materials, but there are plenty of books others may recommend. I’d start with Chapman’s.
Best of luck!
Steve
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29-06-2018, 11:05
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Re: Captains licence
Bowditch Bowditch Bowditch. Dry reading, but the authority on navigation. 33CFR and 46CFR contain most of the applicable regs. You can access them during the exam so it is more important to know your way around these pubs than to read and memorize tens of thousands of pages. There are some very specific charts that you will use for the nav problems, and so you need to get them for practice.
What license are you sitting for? Do you have your seatime properly documented? If you don't have discharges then you need letters of service from the company, or signed affidavit if your time is all on yachts.
If you are sitting for your OUPV (six pack) license, it is pretty simple. You need 90% on rules but only 70% on everything else, including navigation problems. Houston (pronounced HOWston) Marine used to have good books for self study for all lower level licenses. (1600t and under, mate, master, engineer)
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1979 Bruce Roberts Offshore 44, BRUTE FORCE
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29-06-2018, 16:06
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Location: Wilmington NC
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Re: Captains licence
Thank you all. I'm applying for DUPV...i believe for 1000 ton coast line....Again thank to all I will look into all the info I received today...
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29-06-2018, 16:07
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Re: Captains licence
That was supposed to be OUPV...
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29-06-2018, 20:31
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Re: Captains licence
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Originally Posted by mark rocco mont
Thank you all. I'm applying for DUPV...i believe for 1000 ton coast line....Again thank to all I will look into all the info I received today...
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I may be wrong but I believe Operator, Uninspected Passenger Vessel authorizes you to carry up to 6 passengers for hire, on inland or near coastal routes, and the vessel will be 50 tons or under. I would have to consult the CFRs but I believe that is the cutoff. 1000 tons is part of the old licensing structure and there no longer is a 1000 ton license. The lower level deck licenses are 100 ton Master, 200 ton Mate, and Master, 500, and 1600 ton Mate and Master. And of course OUPV. Anyway I would get Bowditch, the charts, and the Houston books, for starters. You can actually breeze right by the celestial nav part, as you will not be tested on celestial navigation for that grade of license. The Houston books actually come with reduced size versions of the charts but I would spring for the full size ones. You will need triangles, dividers, and a couple of good fine lead mechanical pencils. Erasers. A calculator. You can't have your smartphone or a programmable calculator in the test room, so you need to learn to do everything with a plain vanilla calculator. You might also want a course protractor, circular slide rule speed/time/distance thingy, parallel rules, etc but me, I don't care for such nonsense. You can walk a bearing to or from the compass rose with triangles a lot faster than with parallel rules. Just sayin. Oh, and you should consider getting your AB ticket, same time, if you think you might want to sail on ships, because your six pack license won't help you there.
You will, I think, also have to actually take a course in firefighting, water survival, damage control, CPR/First Aid, all that stuff. Not sure right off if it is required or not, for six pack. I don't think you have to have any STCW certification. You will want to get your TWIC card, too, if you will ever be going in or out of any secure harbor facilities.
There are schools that will handhold you through the whole process and I think for that level of license it is only a few hundred bucks. Probably worth it if you are not used to dealing with the USCG REC.
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1979 Bruce Roberts Offshore 44, BRUTE FORCE
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29-06-2018, 22:25
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Re: Captains licence
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-20...I-subchapB.pdf contains most of the information you will need to determine what qualifications and documentation you need.
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1979 Bruce Roberts Offshore 44, BRUTE FORCE
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30-06-2018, 04:22
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Re: Captains licence
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Originally Posted by GrowleyMonster
I may be wrong but I believe Operator, Uninspected Passenger Vessel authorizes you to carry up to 6 passengers for hire, on inland or near coastal routes, and the vessel will be 50 tons or under. I would have to consult the CFRs but I believe that is the cutoff. 1000 tons is part of the old licensing structure and there no longer is a 1000 ton license. The lower level deck licenses are 100 ton Master, 200 ton Mate, and Master, 500, and 1600 ton Mate and Master. And of course OUPV. Anyway I would get Bowditch, the charts, and the Houston books, for starters. You can actually breeze right by the celestial nav part, as you will not be tested on celestial navigation for that grade of license. The Houston books actually come with reduced size versions of the charts but I would spring for the full size ones. You will need triangles, dividers, and a couple of good fine lead mechanical pencils. Erasers. A calculator. You can't have your smartphone or a programmable calculator in the test room, so you need to learn to do everything with a plain vanilla calculator. You might also want a course protractor, circular slide rule speed/time/distance thingy, parallel rules, etc but me, I don't care for such nonsense. You can walk a bearing to or from the compass rose with triangles a lot faster than with parallel rules. Just sayin. Oh, and you should consider getting your AB ticket, same time, if you think you might want to sail on ships, because your six pack license won't help you there.
You will, I think, also have to actually take a course in firefighting, water survival, damage control, CPR/First Aid, all that stuff. Not sure right off if it is required or not, for six pack. I don't think you have to have any STCW certification. You will want to get your TWIC card, too, if you will ever be going in or out of any secure harbor facilities.
There are schools that will handhold you through the whole process and I think for that level of license it is only a few hundred bucks. Probably worth it if you are not used to dealing with the USCG REC.
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STCW is not required for an MMD (the new term for "license"), but would be required to get a job on a ship that required it. All depending on the tonnage and route of the individual ship. Any international route would require it but some domestic ones don't. And never required for UOPV. And as above OUPV (Six Pack) allows no more than six passengers, no freight, towing, etc
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30-06-2018, 05:17
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: W Carib
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Re: Captains licence
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Originally Posted by mark rocco mont
Thank you all. I'm applying for DUPV...i believe for 1000 ton coast line....Again thank to all I will look into all the info I received today...
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There is no such thing as a 1000 ton OUPV liscence. The OUPV liscence is one of many "limited" liscences. "Limited" liscences are all for vessels under 50 tons with relatively narrowly defined uses.
My suggestion is that you visit the USCG National Maritime Center on line and get familiar with liscencing and the types of liscences. Link:
https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Our-Organiz...er_credential/
A basic question to consider is what is your intended use of a commercial liscence? Does an OUPV liscense fit your intended use?
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