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07-05-2011, 05:57
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Join Date: May 2011
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Bullying on the Waterway ( Sunset Lake, Miami )
Bullying on the Waterway (Sunset Lake Miami)
To quote from Active Captain anchorage review:-
"There have been reports of area homeowners arguing and hassling boaters who anchor here. If you need assistance, call local police at 305-673-7901. One home at North Bay Rd has been especially difficult with directing loud music and bright lights onto anchored boats".
We had been told of a neat little anchorage in Miami and that was our destination. We were also advised that at one end was a rather obnoxious homeowner. We entered Sunset Lake, a very tiny quaint lake, more like a cul de sac, surrounded by lovely homes , each with a pool. We selected a spot in the North end, settled in at about 2:30. We parked in front of a gorgeous home, pool, big blue and white go fast boat in front on hoists, a shiny red sea doo on a lift.
Al was just finishing up the dishes just after 7 o'clock when the home owner we were parked in front of came by on his sea doo loudly calling "Captain, captain". Al stuck his head out and he "told us to move, he and his family didn't want us there." Al told him that he believed by law we could be there, and the man agreed but still insisted we pull up anchor and go to the south end so he and his family didn't have to look at us. Al assertively told him that our anchor was down, we were settled in and we would not be moving. The man grumbled some things about making our life miserable, said he'd be back and said he would park his boat right next to us tomorrow with the music going. Al didn't give him the satisfaction of a response. The man proceeded to his dock, put the CD player from his go fast boat on at highest volume, for our enjoyment and blasted a RAP song the same song on a loop at us, if we had other cruisers there we could have had a party!!!!. As soon as the sun had set and it was sufficiently dark he shone a gazillion watt flood light directly into Close Knit. Al had already donned our solid blue window covers knowing what he would do, blocking out the light. These were all things we heard he would do. It was really all quite ridiculous but lost on us, since I am deaf in one ear, have a moderate brain injury and sleep like the dead. Also he should some day go onboard a trawler, they are built so solid & have a wonderful noise insulation. We were unphased, although I wonder why the neighbors don't complain.
With our 12 volt fans inside we could not even hear his RAP. We settled in to watch a movie and were in bed just before 11, his light still shining and music still blaring. We are sure his neighbors love him.
True to his word he was up preparing his boat to anchor beside us in the morning. I tried hard to talk Al into staying the weekend just to bug him, but he didn't want to. We had our coffee, pulled anchor and set off to a more civilized anchorage between Hibiscus and Palm Island. We encourage all and any cruiser with tenacity to enjoy his entertainment & bug the hell out of him.
I'm sure this could come under the heading psychological warfare he was trying to conduct, which I am sure is illegal but I think he forgets one thing, he may do that to some people & he may get a reaction he will not bargain for.
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07-05-2011, 06:05
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway (Sunset Lake Miami)
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, mv.closeknit.
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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07-05-2011, 06:20
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Wandering the US Gulf Coast
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway (Sunset Lake Miami)
He's got a nice place there. I'm sure his power bill is more than my entire monthly budget, probably twice as much.
Not sure about his taste in yard art. A headless pink flamingo with a tattoo?
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07-05-2011, 06:26
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway (Sunset Lake Miami)
The back of the house.

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07-05-2011, 06:39
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Senior Cruiser

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Re: Bullying on the Waterway (Sunset Lake Miami)
Who are we to doubt Fred's sense of entitlement?
Frederic N (Fred) Karlton is a real estate developer, and major doner ($50k ) to the Florida Liberty Fund , a Republican (party) PAC, and president of his daddy’s firm, KARLTON INVESTMENT GROUP INC. 1800 PURDY AVE, STE 2, (305)-532-2900.
➥ Karlton Investment Group
Property Information for 2344 N Bay Rd
Single Family Residence
Year Built: 2000
4 Bedrooms
6 Bathrooms
Approximately 10,129 Sq Ft
Lot size: 30,000 Sq Ft
Stories: 2
Last assessed at $5,155,448 on 2009
Previous assessments
$5,155,448 on 2009
$5,150,298 on 2008
$5,000,290 on 2007
Source: Public Records
2344 North Bay Road Miami Beach FL
This 4 bedroom, 5 bathroom home has 9,185 square feet and was built in 2000.
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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07-05-2011, 06:45
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Moderator... short for Cat Wrangler

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Francisco
Boat: Cal 28 Flush Deck
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway (Sunset Lake Miami)
Oh.
Oh really...
This is almost TOO tempting.
Did you all know that if the spirit so moves you , it is possible to make a donation in someone's name and have a nice little card mailed to them notifying them of this honour?
I am thinking planned parenthood might be my next stop on the web this morning...
Oh.
Oh yes indeedy I do...
I am sure Fred will appreciate it as much as Sara Palin did...
oh yes... be right back all....
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ain't what ya do, it's the way that ya do it...
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07-05-2011, 07:25
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Join Date: May 2011
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway (Sunset Lake Miami)
That is evil....
BUT WE LOVE IT.
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07-05-2011, 07:30
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Moderator... short for Cat Wrangler

Join Date: Jul 2009
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway ( Sunset Lake, Miami )
heh....
The only problem is you don't get to see their faces...
I make all my liberal donations in the name of someone whom I feel will REALLY not appreciate it ; -)
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ain't what ya do, it's the way that ya do it...
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07-05-2011, 07:42
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,281
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway ( Sunset Lake, Miami )
Perhaps that is a good time and place to get rid of those old candy bars?

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07-05-2011, 07:48
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CF Adviser Moderator Emeritus

Join Date: Dec 2006
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway ( Sunset Lake, Miami )
Just to add to what Gord provided, above, the home was last sold (presumably to Mr. Karlton) in 2001 for a paltry $430,000, though it had previously sold in mid-1998 for $1,000,000. The property tax bill for 2009 (last available) was $105,224.
The Zillow information agrees that it is a 10,129 square foot house, but indicates it has four bedrooms and six bathrooms. I have no way of knowing, but based on the sale in 1998 at $1,000,000 and the subsequent sale three years later at only $430,000, I have to believe that something unpleasant happened to the property in the interim - insurance fire, perhaps?
The $430,000 price in 2001 was, essentially, land value.
See: http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2344-N-Bay-Rd-Miami-Beach-FL-33140/43894090_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-bubble-address}
TaoJones
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07-05-2011, 07:50
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway ( Sunset Lake, Miami )
LOL, Gord May, you are starting to scare me! 
(Maybe I should buy some thicker curtains)
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07-05-2011, 07:52
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Senior Cruiser

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Re: Bullying on the Waterway ( Sunset Lake, Miami )
Quote:
Originally Posted by TaoJones
... based on the sale in 1998 at $1,000,000 and the subsequent sale three years later at only $430,000, I have to believe that something unpleasant happened to the property in the interim - insurance fire, perhaps?
The $430,000 price in 2001 was, essentially, land value.
See: http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2344-N-Bay-Rd-Miami-Beach-FL-33140/43894090_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-bubble-address}
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That would make sense, given the house is listed a being built in 2000.
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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07-05-2011, 07:56
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CF Adviser Moderator Emeritus

Join Date: Dec 2006
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway ( Sunset Lake, Miami )
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay
That would make sense, given the house is listed a being built in 2000.
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Heh, apparently only one bathroom survived whatever happened . . .
TaoJones
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07-05-2011, 08:01
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Wandering the US Gulf Coast
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway ( Sunset Lake, Miami )
Must have been one of those $million tear-downs one reads about.
The lot next door is scraped clean, he probably owns it as well, so he doesn't have to look at the next door neighbor either.
Probably needs to have his blood pressure checked.
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07-05-2011, 08:28
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Registered User
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Location: Catskill Mountains when not cruising
Boat: 31' homebuilt Michalak-designed Cormorant "Sea Fever"
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Re: Bullying on the Waterway ( Sunset Lake, Miami )
What a jackass. He should pay cruisers for improving the view from his miserable home. Maybe he just can't bear to see people living life happily, going places and doing things. I feel sorry him . . . a bit.
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