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22-01-2016, 06:09
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boat molds
A friend's 80 year-old father has a lot of stuff, including the molds for the Victoria 18' & 26' sailboats. I found images on line and they are nice looking vessels. She wonders if they have any value at all. Thoughts?
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22-01-2016, 06:17
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Re: boat molds
I liken this sort of thing to being like trying to sell a parachute, the trick is finding someone who wants it, then it has value.
I was at Sun-N-Fun a few years ago, it's the second biggest fly-in, behind Oshkosh.
They were Auctioning off the Type Certificate for the Lake Amphibian, a bunch of us showed up to see how much it would go for. There wasn't a single bid, no one even threw out a $1,000 bid.
Apparently no one there wanted it.
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22-01-2016, 06:40
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Re: boat molds
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Originally Posted by a64pilot
I liken this sort of thing to being like trying to sell a parachute, the trick is finding someone who wants it, then it has value.
I was at Sun-N-Fun a few years ago, it's the second biggest fly-in, behind Oshkosh.
They were Auctioning off the Type Certificate for the Lake Amphibian, a bunch of us showed up to see how much it would go for. There wasn't a single bid, no one even threw out a $1,000 bid.
Apparently no one there wanted it.
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Is this like a "license to manufacture" ?
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22-01-2016, 06:56
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Re: boat molds
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Originally Posted by HappyMdRSailor
Is this like a "license to manufacture" ?
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No, just you own the design, (Type data) for an airworthy aircraft, to manufacture is a whole nuther animal. That word "airworthy" is a BIG word, with many meanings
this is close to a decent explaination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_certificate
Back to his molds, They do have value, I believe, trick though is finding someone who will pay for them.
My Father in Law designed boats and worked for Hatteras, Century and several others years ago. He said that "Pop" boats were very common.
Someone would make a very successful, good boat. Others would buy one and "pop" a mold off of it and very soon be selling what looked to be the same boat, at least hull wise.
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22-01-2016, 08:36
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Re: boat molds
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Originally Posted by MrReedatsea
A friend's 80 year-old father has a lot of stuff, including the molds for the Victoria 18' & 26' sailboats. I found images on line and they are nice looking vessels. She wonders if they have any value at all. Thoughts?
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MrReed, are these molds located at the old factory in DeBary, Florida?
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22-01-2016, 08:39
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Re: boat molds
Not 100% sure. I do know they are located in Florida.
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02-02-2016, 08:20
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Re: boat molds
Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot
No, just you own the design, (Type data) for an airworthy aircraft, to manufacture is a whole nuther animal. That word "airworthy" is a BIG word, with many meanings
this is close to a decent explaination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_certificate
Back to his molds, They do have value, I believe, trick though is finding someone who will pay for them.
My Father in Law designed boats and worked for Hatteras, Century and several others years ago. He said that "Pop" boats were very common.
Someone would make a very successful, good boat. Others would buy one and "pop" a mold off of it and very soon be selling what looked to be the same boat, at least hull wise.
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04-02-2016, 06:25
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Re: boat molds
Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot
No, just you own the design, (Type data) for an airworthy aircraft, to manufacture is a whole nuther animal. That word "airworthy" is a BIG word, with many meanings
this is close to a decent explaination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_certificate
Back to his molds, They do have value, I believe, trick though is finding someone who will pay for them.
My Father in Law designed boats and worked for Hatteras, Century and several others years ago. He said that "Pop" boats were very common.
Someone would make a very successful, good boat. Others would buy one and "pop" a mold off of it and very soon be selling what looked to be the same boat, at least hull wise.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll
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If nobody has taken the name yet... I'm putting dibs on line of boats called the weasel....
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04-02-2016, 14:37
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Re: boat molds
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Originally Posted by HappyMdRSailor
If nobody has taken the name yet... I'm putting dibs on line of boats called the weasel....
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I saw what you did there.
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