Anyone not in lockdown and still able to sail?

[arsenelupiga]

Originally Posted by Djarraluda

So what is it in “Do not travel” that you don’t understand?
I have no issue with livaboards but every time you are ashore there is transmission risk, , either way!
Specific comments have been made by Authorities to tell folk not to travel, especially to small communities with very limited medical facilities. Many of these small communities have come out against tourists at present, repeating the comment that tourists are not welcome.
As Jim and Anne have said, they are not planning to move and thus we can applauded them joining the effort to limit the spread.
It is doubtful anyone would deliberately spread the virus, all these transmissions are most likely to be unintentional. We have all been asked to respect the intent of the law, intended to minimise risk, we have been told not to travel!
If you do proceed to a small town, be prepared for open hostility and potentially being turned away. Do not travel means Do not travel and the Police are attempting to enforce that.
Roger

I agree with that. There is huge financial effort involved and subsequent debt and noncompliance will cost dearly economically and in life time we spent locked.

Also, do not underestimate will of locals to turn you away. Coming from area that was plagued 500 years ago, it is still alive in people psyche. They killed anyone trying to move places.

[El Pinguino]

From the Melbourne Age..today

In Victoria, Police Deputy Commissioner Shane Patton has said that if people have more than one "ordinary place of residence" then they can move between them. "You got a holiday house? You can go to that," he told 3AW radio. But go there, go straight there and stay there, only going out for one of the four valid reasons – to shop for food and other essentials; to access medical services or provide caregiving; to go to work or education; and to exercise or you can be fined.
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Fishing? It depends where you live.
Fishing? It depends where you live.CREDIT:
Can I go fishing, take the boat out or play golf?
"No one likes playing golf more than I do," Victoria's Premier Daniel Andrews has said. "You might want to play golf but you don't need to play golf. No round of golf is worth someone's life." Victoria's Chief Medical Officer, Brett Sutton, has ruled out not just golf but fishing, boating, hunting, camping and "all recreational activity beyond basic exercise". "Hang up your rods, leave the tinnie in the driveway, and clean your [golf] clubs at home."

In NSW, hunting is suspended but fishing is OK – the Department of Primary Industries characterises it as exercise. Golf is fine, too. (Golf courses were initially closed on advice of the federal government but, after reconsideration, the NSW Office of Sport deemed golf an activity that can be played in line with Public Health Orders.) And so is boating. A "reasonable excuse" to use your boat could be to exercise (for example, kayaking, sailing, paddling); fish; get to and from work when you can't work from home; get groceries; and provide help or care to an immediate member of the person's family. Again, social distancing rules always apply – at the boat ramp and on your boat. You should be in your boat alone or with just one other person; or with family who ordinarily live in the same household as you.

In Queensland, even if two people are in a tinnie they are still required to socially distance.
Golf is good in Queensland as long as it is with just two people who are physically distant. Boating was banned but now boaties can locally fish or travel for food but not recreation (it's not clear where this leaves anglers). Other forms of water sports, including kayaking and paddleboarding, are also still allowed in Queensland, and state-run boat ramps remain open. Even so, the federal provisions limiting public gatherings to two people or less still apply, and even if two people are in a tinnie they are still required to socially distance.'


...sigh

[RaymondR]

Even so, the federal provisions limiting public gatherings to two people or less still apply, and even if two people are in a tinnie they are still required to socially distance.'

Except in Queensland where 80 odd people were excused to go to a funeral.

[Davo1404]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

Even so, the federal provisions limiting public gatherings to two people or less still apply, and even if two people are in a tinnie they are still required to socially distance.'

Except in Queensland where 80 odd people were excused to go to a funeral.

The funeral thing!. Try to figure that one out.

[chrisr]

Originally Posted by Djarraluda

So what is it in “Do not travel” that you don’t understand?
I have no issue with livaboards but every time you are ashore there is transmission risk, , either way!
Specific comments have been made by Authorities to tell folk not to travel, especially to small communities with very limited medical facilities. Many of these small communities have come out against tourists at present, repeating the comment that tourists are not welcome.
As Jim and Anne have said, they are not planning to move and thus we can applauded them joining the effort to limit the spread.
It is doubtful anyone would deliberately spread the virus, all these transmissions are most likely to be unintentional. We have all been asked to respect the intent of the law, intended to minimise risk, we have been told not to travel!
If you do proceed to a small town, be prepared for open hostility and potentially being turned away. Do not travel means Do not travel and the Police are attempting to enforce that.
Roger

everyone is entitled to their opinion. yours is wrong so of no interest. i've long ago ceased trying to educate people

it's your problem - not mine

cheers,

[El Pinguino]

Meanwhile back up the bush.....

When I am up on the ridge at the back of the North 40 I can see my neighbour's house... they live in Melbourne.. its a lifestyle block as they would say in Unzud... they can drive 3 hours up from the Melbourne epicentre and then shop in the local village....

I'd rather take a punt on some people turning up on a yacht... not that that happens all that often hearabouts...

[tp12]

Not sure I understand how traveling around fits in with the stay at home message being pushed by the Prime Minister and all the state Premiers. It's a bit of a twist of logic to say you're at home because you live on board and therefore you can travel. The message is clearly to stay put and limit travel to essential only. Perhaps one of these people traveling around on their boat can have a crack at crossing a state border and let us know how that works out. I mean, there's police at check points pulling people over and handing out fines etc for not having a legitimate reason to be traveling.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by chrisr

everyone is entitled to their opinion. yours is wrong so of no interest. i've long ago ceased trying to educate people
it's your problem - not mine
cheers,

Confidence is what you have, before you understand the problem.

[sepharad]

I am not sure about landlord and tenant law in Denmark, but they are evicting a boat, not a person. Which may be a substantial difference.

If it IS illegal, I still can't enter the country to fight the issue.

Basically I can't enter to do either.

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Meanwhile back up the bush.....

When I am up on the ridge at the back of the North 40 I can see my neighbour's house... they live in Melbourne.. its a lifestyle block as they would say in Unzud... they can drive 3 hours up from the Melbourne epicentre and then shop in the local village....

I'd rather take a punt on some people turning up on a yacht... not that that happens all that often hearabouts...

Here in Denmark it looks like whole country is out for an Easter holidays cruise. The harbor is full of boats from other parts of the country.


I'd go out myself but I was told that there would be a presumption that I was violating the border closure if I turned up at a strange Danish port wearing the red duster . . .



Schools here will be reopened next week.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Here in Denmark ...
... Schools here will be reopened next week.

Maybe.
Announcing that its kindergartens and primary schools would reopen, Wednesday next week, Mette Frederiksen, Denmark’s prime minister said, that children and adults at schools should be outside as much as possible, while there would be more distance between pupils inside.
“We are presenting a first, careful phase in the reopening of Denmark. It assumes that we are responsible and that the numbers [of sick] are stable, not just this week but for a long time to come. If we see over Easter that it is increasing, we won’t reopen,” she told a press conference.

[Tacmed]

Originally Posted by Fore and Aft

There was some confusion here in Queensland but we can still go boating. Can't see how going from the yacht to home is going to harm anyone as long as you do not stop and socialise with anyone.
Cheers

QLD. No sailing/boating. Locked downen now. Fishing for family food only.
Friends have been told to return to port or face on the spot fine.

[woodyapex]

Well I’m actually on lock down .
But I’m on my boat in the Bahamas !
I’m a barnsley lad too .
Just stuck here diving under the boat for fish and chilling till I can get back to uk .

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Maybe.
Announcing that its kindergartens and primary schools would reopen, Wednesday next week, Mette Frederiksen, Denmark’s prime minister said, that children and adults at schools should be outside as much as possible, while there would be more distance between pupils inside.
“We are presenting a first, careful phase in the reopening of Denmark. It assumes that we are responsible and that the numbers [of sick] are stable, not just this week but for a long time to come. If we see over Easter that it is increasing, we won’t reopen,” she told a press conference.

Numbers are looking very good, with new cases in single digit percentages all week, low single digits last few days.


Denmark has more cases per capita than Sweden (973 per million vs 905), but the trajectory is similar, doubling only in 10-11 days, which is considered quite sustainable. The Danes are acutely conscious of the economic cost, were careful not to overdo their lockdown (which was almost as mild as Sweden's policy), and are being very careful not to keep it in place for too long.



Good for them. I hope it works.

[crewtv]

Were practicing social distancing in SWEDEN and with 28,000 islands to explore we should have a good sailing season if you can get here. Plenty of fresh air and wide open spaces. sailingsweden.com