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Old 24-07-2019, 17:53   #1
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5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??

When reviewing the reverse side of our new 5-year USCG COD, noticed something a little strange in the “fine print.



It states, ” This certificate is valid for one year.



While the USCG COD is a legal document and I’m no lawyer, wonder which statement takes legal precedent, the front side which has dates indicating valid for 5 years or the reverse side which states it valid for one year?


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Old 24-07-2019, 22:14   #2
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??

It is valid for one year. Plus four more.
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Old 24-07-2019, 22:48   #3
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It is valid for one year. Plus four more.

Haha! Good one!

On the semi-serious side, I did send an email inquiry for clarification to the NVDC at nvdc.w.webmaster@uscg.mil. Still awaiting a response.

Was surprised this was not identified earlier. Guess like most, no one reads the “fine” print.

Figure this is likely just another governmental bureaucratic “oops!”.
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??

The Certificate itself is valid for one year.


It can be extended to last up to five years.


What's the issue?



This is a LOT better than having to do a renewal every year.
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The Certificate itself is valid for one year.


It can be extended to last up to five years.


What's the issue?



This is a LOT better than having to do a renewal every year.

Look at the picture in the original post - front states good for 5 years - backside says good for one. See areas highlighted in RED.
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Look at the picture in the original post - front states good for 5 years - backside says good for one. See areas highlighted in RED.

Yes, I read your post.


If you get a different answer somewhere let us know.
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Old 25-07-2019, 06:43   #7
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??

What was the fee for the supposed 5 year COD? $26 or $130?
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Old 25-07-2019, 06:47   #8
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The Certificate itself is valid for one year.

It can be extended to last up to five years.

What's the issue?

This is a LOT better than having to do a renewal every year.

Oh, and if this wasn't clear, I mean you extended it when you renewed (or selected 5 year extension), right? Giving it a total validity of 5 years.
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??

The way I read that is that some states require registration as well as documentation (for tax purposes?) and that the state registration is only valid for one year.
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??

Looks to me like someone forgot to print new blanks when they went to the 5 year option.


Please post the response you get from the NVDC.



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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??

It's 5 years. Don't worry about it. Go by the 2024 date shown.

The form is a 2004 form, which the "fine print" is a part of. Obviously, the form hasn't been updated to reflect to recent new 5-yr Documentation. People do make mistakes and overlook these things and/or didn't want to throw thousands of printed 2004 forms in the trash and print thousands more to replace them, saving you the taxpayer money.
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Looks to me like someone forgot to print new blanks when they went to the 5 year option.


Please post the response you get from the NVDC.



Thanks,
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I doubt they're going to want to have to print something custom on both sides. My guess is that they'll eventually re-word it.
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It's 5 years. Don't worry about it. Go by the 2024 date shown.

The form is a 2004 form, which the "fine print" is a part of. Obviously, the form hasn't been updated to reflect to recent new 5-yr Documentation. People do make mistakes and overlook these things and/or didn't want to throw thousands of printed 2004 forms in the trash and print thousands more to replace them, saving you the taxpayer money.
I think you nailed it.
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??

They obviously forgot to rewrite the text on the backside of the form when they came out with the new 5-year documentation. In other words they didn't use the extra money they charge to hire intelligent and detail-oriented people in their documents section. Makes you wonder about their shipbuilding department?
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They obviously forgot to rewrite the text on the backside of the form when they came out with the new 5-year documentation. In other words they didn't use the extra money they charge to hire intelligent and detail-oriented people in their documents section. Makes you wonder about their shipbuilding department?

They didn't redo the form at all.

This is far from the worst problem in government paperwork, or even USCG documentation paperwork.

I'm just glad you can renew for 5 years now.
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