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24-07-2019, 18:53
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5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
When reviewing the reverse side of our new 5-year USCG COD, noticed something a little strange in the “fine print.
It states, ” This certificate is valid for one year.”
While the USCG COD is a legal document and I’m no lawyer, wonder which statement takes legal precedent, the front side which has dates indicating valid for 5 years or the reverse side which states it valid for one year?
Any thoughts?
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24-07-2019, 23:14
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
It is valid for one year. Plus four more.
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24-07-2019, 23:48
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Location: Oceanview Marina, Samal Island, Davao, Philippines
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
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Originally Posted by jmorrison146
It is valid for one year. Plus four more.
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Haha! Good one!
On the semi-serious side, I did send an email inquiry for clarification to the NVDC at nvdc.w.webmaster@uscg.mil. Still awaiting a response.
Was surprised this was not identified earlier. Guess like most, no one reads the “fine” print.
Figure this is likely just another governmental bureaucratic “oops!”.
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25-07-2019, 00:44
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
The Certificate itself is valid for one year.
It can be extended to last up to five years.
What's the issue?
This is a LOT better than having to do a renewal every year.
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25-07-2019, 00:49
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Location: Oceanview Marina, Samal Island, Davao, Philippines
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
Quote:
Originally Posted by letsgetsailing3
The Certificate itself is valid for one year.
It can be extended to last up to five years.
What's the issue?
This is a LOT better than having to do a renewal every year.
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Look at the picture in the original post - front states good for 5 years - backside says good for one. See areas highlighted in RED.
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25-07-2019, 01:02
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Abbott
Look at the picture in the original post - front states good for 5 years - backside says good for one. See areas highlighted in RED.
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Yes, I read your post.
If you get a different answer somewhere let us know.
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25-07-2019, 07:43
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
What was the fee for the supposed 5 year COD? $26 or $130?
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25-07-2019, 07:47
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
Quote:
Originally Posted by letsgetsailing3
The Certificate itself is valid for one year.
It can be extended to last up to five years.
What's the issue?
This is a LOT better than having to do a renewal every year.
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Oh, and if this wasn't clear, I mean you extended it when you renewed (or selected 5 year extension), right? Giving it a total validity of 5 years.
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25-07-2019, 10:41
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Location: Florida
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
The way I read that is that some states require registration as well as documentation (for tax purposes?) and that the state registration is only valid for one year.
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25-07-2019, 11:56
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
Looks to me like someone forgot to print new blanks when they went to the 5 year option.
Please post the response you get from the NVDC.
Thanks,
Bill
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25-07-2019, 12:52
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
It's 5 years. Don't worry about it. Go by the 2024 date shown.
The form is a 2004 form, which the "fine print" is a part of. Obviously, the form hasn't been updated to reflect to recent new 5-yr Documentation. People do make mistakes and overlook these things and/or didn't want to throw thousands of printed 2004 forms in the trash and print thousands more to replace them, saving you the taxpayer money.
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25-07-2019, 13:48
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moontide
Looks to me like someone forgot to print new blanks when they went to the 5 year option.
Please post the response you get from the NVDC.
Thanks,
Bill
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I doubt they're going to want to have to print something custom on both sides. My guess is that they'll eventually re-word it.
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25-07-2019, 15:19
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
Quote:
Originally Posted by bauer965
It's 5 years. Don't worry about it. Go by the 2024 date shown.
The form is a 2004 form, which the "fine print" is a part of. Obviously, the form hasn't been updated to reflect to recent new 5-yr Documentation. People do make mistakes and overlook these things and/or didn't want to throw thousands of printed 2004 forms in the trash and print thousands more to replace them, saving you the taxpayer money.
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I think you nailed it.
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25-07-2019, 16:30
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
They obviously forgot to rewrite the text on the backside of the form when they came out with the new 5-year documentation. In other words they didn't use the extra money they charge to hire intelligent and detail-oriented people in their documents section. Makes you wonder about their shipbuilding department?
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25-07-2019, 17:05
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,967
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Re: 5-Year USCG COD Anomaly??
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmschmidt
They obviously forgot to rewrite the text on the backside of the form when they came out with the new 5-year documentation. In other words they didn't use the extra money they charge to hire intelligent and detail-oriented people in their documents section. Makes you wonder about their shipbuilding department?
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They didn't redo the form at all.
This is far from the worst problem in government paperwork, or even USCG documentation paperwork.
I'm just glad you can renew for 5 years now.
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