Originally Posted by Jim Cate
\and he is about to depart on a trip to the South Pacific
... so you must be right!
No Jim this was a guy who started in the seventies and was a lifelong cat sailor. That Flyin Hawaiian guy.. well it looks to me like he built a coastal houseboat. i wouldnt be on it outside the ics but to each their own. i do love watching all the credit card sailors who know jack about engineering piping in though. His cat is >basically< a frp boat with exterior ply as the core
. Note exterior ply is infinitely stronger (and heavier) than the light but useless foam/balsa core
his critics sail in. if he got the cross beams right and the rigging
support right thats likely to be as safe as any production cat in the deep ocean.. which is to say... not safe..
The guy im talking about and his gf (from memory) built a 24ish mono from donated/salvaged material.. some softwood some hardwood etc. Take note: from an engineering standpoint the Only problem with using cheap
softwood is rot
resistance. They lived aboard(!!!!!!!) for 2 years i think then sold it cheap
w full disclosure. The then built a 30ish junk rigged cat out of mostly softwood/exterior ply w some marine over the next year. Heres the kicker
.. the damn thing was beautiful. Seriously. They sailed that for years then sold it and built a bigger one and last i remember reading were still living on that one.
The reason i'll always remember that... ive owned 2 businesses i built from scratch with $0 in the bank. Everyone said it couldnt be done and i was an irresponsible fool. later on those people were the ones saying life handed me the world and i was lucky because i only had to work
when i felt like it (!!!!!! i put 100 hours a week in for years eating ramen w no guarantees).
Sorry but this is a touchy issue w me:
These same people are the ones who say you need a naval architect designed factory produced boat with crap workmanship and lowest bidder materials fitted out with "nautical' equipment that costs 5 to 10x what the Exact same equipment costs w/o nautical in front of it. A note.. these people were criticising 'Hot Rod' for using drywall/deck screws. Those are near perfect for this application. These arent a bad choice (i'd fork out the money
for silicon bronze). Because of what he's building they may be better than stainless (which rusts/bleeds).
These same people were the ones laughing at plastic boats, at foam core, at balsa core, at sheathed wooden boats. They're low iq followers sans knowledge or ability and they are the ones who think only millionaires shouls sail.
So because joe factory worker or tom the stock broker cant do it.. (or much of anything) they attack people who try .. do anything to bring them down.. then when those people succeed.. they revere them and claim always to have done so. it's an odious cycle the sailing community is especially noted for.
So when i see a 20yo scrounging an old mast
or a 50 yo with a worn out 40' sloop
in his back yard or a family
constructing a 50' ferro hull
?? i have nothing but respect and admiration.. because they refuse to listen to the bleating of the sheep living in the marina on their identical low bid cloneboats in the marina.. never daring sail them.