UPDATE: Reduce Offer After Survey?

[letsgetsailing3]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Strange a seller would leave something like that exposed.

One could get sued for covering something like that up, and not disclosing it.

[MicHughV]

soft grounding ???.....I call bull***t on that one.....off course, the owner is going to lie about it...
let me translate for you...." yeah, I smacked it pretty hard, tried to fix it myself, but obviously didn't do a good job of hiding the impact.....but I'll try and do a snow job on the prospective buyer" ....you..

[Hamish_ct]

Did the repair include dropping the keel and repairing the area, then reattaching the keel? If it didn't then the repair is substandard.

I would either get a quote for a proper repair, if not accepted, then walk away. Could be a dangerous situation.

[Dave_R]

Originally Posted by Hamish_ct

Did the repair include dropping the keel and repairing the area, then reattaching the keel? If it didn't then the repair is substandard.

I would either get a quote for a proper repair, if not accepted, then walk away. Could be a dangerous situation.

Its an encapsulated keel, so there is no dropping it and reattaching.

We have agreed on a repair allowance, and repairs are proceeding to our specifications, which included a layup schedule at least as good as the original.

[double u]

Originally Posted by Hamish_ct

Did the repair include dropping the keel and repairing the area, then reattaching the keel? If it didn't then the repair is substandard.

I would either get a quote for a proper repair, if not accepted, then walk away. Could be a dangerous situation.

...this is the sort of "expertise" that you get if you ask the internet! Can't tell a bolt-on keel from an encapsulated one

[Hamish_ct]

Thanks for the polite reply from another gentlemen sailor.

[double u]

quite polite, quite! (considering...)

[Zzmeyer]

Originally Posted by solosail

I don't know anything about this particular boat design...
I have read a few accounts of people that have lost their keel at sea to disastrous effect!!!
Proceed with caution!!!

The one you are referring to, I bet, is Cheeki Rafiki, which was lost with all hands when the keel separated. The courts determined that the owner, not Beneteau was at fault for not properly maintaining the boat and failure to make repairs after several groundings. Might apply here also, as the repair appeared to be cosmetic and not structural. If you look at the ISAF special task force report on keel failures, Beneteau faired very well. Most failures were on custom racing boats. While a fin keel is obviously more susceptible to failure than a full keel, if you exclude fin keel from consideration you are eliminating more than 90% of all boats out there cruising the world.

[Cheechako]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

soft grounding ???.....I call bull***t on that one.....off course, the owner is going to lie about it...
let me translate for you...." yeah, I smacked it pretty hard, tried to fix it myself, but obviously didn't do a good job of hiding the impact.....but I'll try and do a snow job on the prospective buyer" ....you..

Yeah, I agree. I hit bottom very hard a couple of times in my 6'-5" draft Passport 47. I'm talking about "bang, dead stop" from 4.5-5 knots! The result? scraped bottom paint.

[Cwens]

Originally Posted by PaulCrawhorn

So many people are misunderstanding that $24 sentence...

Kind of surprising, isn't it?

[ms.lau]

I said it before, I'll say it again. He's been less than honest with you, I wouldn't trust him, walk away.

[glanrock]

Congratulations on your new (to you) boat! I'm curious if you have taken pics of it being sanded and faired out? Boats are always an adventure, usually its when your sailing them but sometimes on land as well. Ours certainly is!

[Dave_R]

Sadly, we walked. As repairs continued, it appeared that more of the keel had been damaged in the past, and we were not able to agree on the nature of the repairs needed.

So we're looking again.

[Hoodsail]

Originally Posted by Dave_R

Sadly, we walked. As repairs continued, it appeared that more of the keel had been damaged in the past, and we were not able to agree on the nature of the repairs needed.

So we're looking again.

Dave, sorry about the boat, but much better now than having nagging doubts in the back of your mind when sailing in some heavy weather. Always an emotional investment when you get to where you were in the buying process, but keep looking and Spring will be here soon...much better weather to crawl around on more boats! thnks

[DeValency]

Originally Posted by Dave_R

Sadly, we walked. As repairs continued, it appeared that more of the keel had been damaged in the past, and we were not able to agree on the nature of the repairs needed.

So we're looking again.

In fact, you should be quite happy you’ve taken the right decision.

Your future boat is still waiting for you.