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27-03-2016, 17:21
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
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Originally Posted by Lizzy Belle
Personally, I'd avoid any boat with a screwed on teak deck, but that's just me
HR's don't come cheap - you pay for both the boat and the HR name.
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True you do but if you shop well they can turn out to be a good choice, they are very well built and excellent sea boats.
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27-03-2016, 17:24
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
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Originally Posted by Lizzy Belle
Personally, I'd avoid any boat with a screwed on teak deck, but that's just me
HR's don't come cheap - you pay for both the boat and the HR name.
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This boat is one of several that my wife and I are looking at for our second boat, it comes well equipped, however the headache with a teak deck that needs replacing might make us consider another boat from our list. We appreciate everyone's response, and will update if I find out anything more about the deck/core of the boat.
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27-03-2016, 17:44
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Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
Around 90k (American money) is pricey for a 352. Here (European side of our pond) they start at around 60k (American money). You can buy one here and sail her in to the US. Check the taxation, etc.
You may have noticed, they came with various mast lengths and the hull got modified somewhere mid way of the production run. The taller ones sail better.
This:
Hallberg-Rassy 352 No 689
may give you a ballpark figure and condition if you go thru a respectable broker and buy a clean upper shelf one. You pay less buying hand to hand.
Hope this helps.
BTW I looked up the decks - foam in the core so you can have a teak less grp deck if that's what you like.
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27-03-2016, 18:05
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Lynnwood, WA
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
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Thanks, good to know they can do that!
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Ask your surveyor if that is really possible. My boat has teak decks and a fiberglass headliner. There is no place on my boat to use a moisture meter accurately without major surgery.
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27-03-2016, 20:22
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#35
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
Negotiate your best price without teak repairs and in the end add his estimate on replacing the teak of 15 large and have him install the decks as part of the deal
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27-03-2016, 22:30
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Noank, Ct. USA
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
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Originally Posted by barnakiel
Around 90k (American money) is pricey for a 352. Here (European side of our pond) they start at around 60k (American money). You can buy one here and sail her in to the US. Check the taxation, etc.
You may have noticed, they came with various mast lengths and the hull got modified somewhere mid way of the production run. The taller ones sail better.
This:
Hallberg-Rassy 352 No 689
may give you a ballpark figure and condition if you go thru a respectable broker and buy a clean upper shelf one. You pay less buying hand to hand.
Hope this helps.
BTW I looked up the decks - foam in the core so you can have a teak less grp deck if that's what you like.
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Beautiful boat, hate the upholstery
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28-03-2016, 09:43
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Dauphin Island, AL and Bradenton, FL
Boat: 1996 49' Krogen Express
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
We have a 1981 42' GB Trawler with the teak decks that are getting tired. We have a quote (estimate) for removing the teak and resurfacing the deck, plugging holes, etc., then using Awlgrip to create a new non-skid deck. Total for everything was estimated at around 18K to 20K. We'll see...
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28-03-2016, 10:59
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
There will certainly be deck core rot. Cut and remove, re-glass.
PAINT !
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28-03-2016, 11:56
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Location: Annapolis
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
Looked at a Swan 42 5 years ago. Price for a new deck was 75-80 k on the Easy coast of the US
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28-03-2016, 12:03
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
Another consideration is about the teak available now days. I've read that what is being sold isn't the same as the od glrowth that used to be prevalent. It's very true with other woods. I have to say the couple of pieces I've had in the last 10 years are not near as oily as when I was building 30 years ago.
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28-03-2016, 14:01
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Location: East Coast
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
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Originally Posted by Cheechako
Another consideration is about the teak available now days. I've read that what is being sold isn't the same as the od glrowth that used to be prevalent. It's very true with other woods. I have to say the couple of pieces I've had in the last 10 years are not near as oily as when I was building 30 years ago.
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Yeah, I would most likely paint it or do a faux teak. But the current price of replacement is what I would use to reduce his asking price.
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28-03-2016, 16:30
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
Mr. Rassy once claimed that none of his customers ever had a problem with the teak decks. Those problems are for the second owner, he said.
Maybe this is just an urban legend, but it holds a truth.
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29-03-2016, 11:40
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#43
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Keehi Lagoon, O'ahu
Boat: Pearson 424 Ketch
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
A dock neighbor just installed a new faux teak deck on his boat. It really looks good and I was impressed with the installation craftsmanship. It really seems like a logical, cost effective, and attractive way to redo the nonskid on an older boat.
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23-10-2019, 11:22
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Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 12
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
Hi, I'm close to a similar HR but in my case the 352 comes without teak Deck at all. The owner said he bought it new as it is, with gel coat deck.
Does anyone knows if this was a special edition or he removed teak afterwards ? The deck condition looks fine anyway.
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23-10-2019, 12:29
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: forest city
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Re: Purchasing a Hallberg-Rassy that needs new teak deck
Up to a certain date the hulls were chopper gun laminates-find out if this is a later one, otherwise walk away.
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