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20-08-2008, 09:20
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Possibly. He certainly did a lot of discovering.
If you take Thor Hyardal's work, then it was also possibly The Phonecians.
Or maybe some Ivan just walked across to Alaska during a freeze.
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21-08-2008, 02:22
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#137
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Originally Posted by MoonlightShadow
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And then, it wouldn't be any more.
If you go back in history a few hundred years, there was just such a place, rich in agricultural land, rich in minerals, rich in all natural resources.
And then, Columbus discovered it.
(Or Amerigo Vaspuchi, or Brenden, or whomever, depending on the history teachers you had at school).
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Originally Posted by Wotname
I thought it was Capt Cook who "discovered" it.
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Originally Posted by MoonlightShadow
Possibly. He certainly did a lot of discovering.
If you take Thor Hyardal's work, then it was also possibly The Phonecians.
Or maybe some Ivan just walked across to Alaska during a freeze.
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OK my humour was either too subtle or not funny, I was suggesting that "another continent" may have been the "paradisiacal" one rather than the one Columbus almost bumped into. You know the one, the "Great South Land" .
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21-08-2008, 18:06
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#138
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Originally Posted by Wotname
You know the one, the "Great South Land" .
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Shhhhhhh!!!! Don't say things like that as will encourage the escapees from destitution coming down this way.
In fact they are already coming as I saw this in Townsville a couple of weeks ago; quite obviously one of our Cruisers Forum US multihullites who's walked out on an unsupportable mortgage back home.
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03-09-2008, 13:46
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I'm following along with you Captkev! We need a safe, beautiful, great people to play with and an inexpensive place to call home during the bad times possible ahead.
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03-09-2008, 14:02
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Originally Posted by MidLandOne
I saw this in Townsville a couple of weeks ago
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"After receiving delivery of his new TurboCat 50, Gludy started wondering about the advice he had received on CF.com"
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04-09-2008, 03:11
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#141
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Well, at least it floats and hasn't been returned to the builder for a refund, so the CF advice may have been better than that from another forum .
If you read this Gludy, the above is driven by cheek and kindness, not from malice. John
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04-09-2008, 10:48
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You are VERY right!! Well put! You can't have too many friends to lean on.
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04-09-2008, 10:56
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There is a nation that may be a good choice, it is called Kuna Nation, completely independent from Panama an it consists of 377 islands called San Blas Islands, that is my chosen location for what may we globally see relatively soon...wait don't come all at once as the place will get spoiled.
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04-09-2008, 10:58
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In the event of a collapse of the US economy, the world economy would quickly follow. Assets would be worth nothing. That includes gold which has no intrinsic value. Barter would become the only trade system. What do you have of value to trade for food. Skills such as carpentry, iron forging, farming, surgerywould become valuable. Lawyers, accountants, politicians will quickly starve. An island with an agrarian economy and temperate weather may be the place to go. A sail boat may be the only way to get here. Remeber Water World?
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04-09-2008, 11:13
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Originally Posted by Soft Air
There is a nation that may be a good choice, it is called Kuna Nation, completely independent from Panama an it consists of 377 islands called San Blas Islands, that is my chosen location for what may we globally see relatively soon...wait don't come all at once as the place will get spoiled.
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Are these guys different than our Native Americans?
Despite the fact that I share nearly all the beliefs (and practice them more frequently with less westernization) than our Native Americans, I would never be allowed to live within a Native American reserve unless I was married in.
Does it work this way with the Kuna, or is it more welcoming?
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22-05-2009, 04:25
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Originally Posted by speciald@ocens.
In the event of a collapse of the US economy
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It's a given isn't it? China will be the new superpower economy.
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22-05-2009, 04:38
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Or, the next SuperPower could be a continent that is mega-rich in natural resources. Africa.
Hmmmmmm. Naaah. They could never get their act together.
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22-05-2009, 07:22
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::snort::
Just because your neighbors the Joneses get rich doesn't mean you get poor. You just *feel* poor when they're getting new stuff you don't have.
The US is going to remain a hugely wealthy, decadent, and hedonistic place for the foreseeable future. They *might* lose top dog status, but I think I wouldn't even worry about that until the second top dog (Japan) is overtaken - you know, the country which has been in recession for most of the past 25 years and is *still* in second place by most measures?
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22-05-2009, 08:11
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#150
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Good point. But by most standards of measurement, Japan is still a long way behind the USA. While we look to China as an emerging power, truth is they have a massive distance to make up before they can even challenge Japan.
It would take something pretty massive to change the status quo. Something far more than the present downturn. We (UK) have hovered around 4th or 5th for a long while, and while I don't feel poor (either personally or as a Brit), I cannot comprehend the respective economic positions.
When you see places such as Dubai and The United Arab Emirates, one wonders how they cannot possibly be much further to the top of the pile than us.
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