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Old 16-12-2022, 10:21   #1
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Alternative foul weather gear

Hey cruisers. I need to replace my Musto MPX offshore weather gear">foul weather gear. They are just wearing out and falling apart after being well used and stored in damp, heat, cold etc. Now, I am willing to get a Musto, Helly, Gill, logo-emblazoned set of bibs and jacket for a huge amount of money and look the part at the marina. BUT across my consciousness has flashed some alternatives. In particular, bona fide work wear aimed at construction and other outdoor workers, that deliver deep winter time warmth, water proofness, flexibility, “peeing access”, durability and longevity (and they seem quite stylish)for a small fraction of the cost of a set of good yachting oilies. Like 20% of the cost of a set of offshore Mustos.

People, what do you think I might miss if I get some bibs from somewhere like https://truewerk.com/

rather than the recognized offshore brands? This is NOT a plug for the link above. Just an example of many of the brands of work wear out there.

And don’t worry, I will stick to my Dubarry boots!
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Re: Alternative foul weather gear

Hmmmm.

I like your thinking. Let's mull a bit. Consider how the two environments/tasks may be different. Industrial jackets may include a hood as part of the jacket. Foul weather gear tends to make the hat separate. That may be because you need to swivel your head when sailing but not when you are pressure washing a building. Ventilation might be different, too. How well does the industrial stuff you've found dry between uses? Do you need breathable fabric or will a rubberized outter layer work? What about cuffs that stop water coming up your arm?

I say inspect carefully, think about your task, and give it a try.
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No experience with this product but heard about it from a podcast I listen to. Although not cheap it looks really nice and is a small company. You can call and talk to the owners. At least one could get questions answered and maybe a better answer to questions than some of the bigger companies. Sometimes I feel like you can get a better product from a small company that has to genuinely have good product to succeed because they don't have a the reputation of a big name and big name marketing to help them survive.

Not implying this company is good or better than others. Just a company I hadn't heard of until a few months ago.

Good luck finding what you like. Definitely keep us updated if you go the alternative company route.

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Re: Alternative foul weather gear

This side of the pond, Fladen are popular with the fishing and charter boat crews:

https://www.fishermansclothing.co.uk...46-p-1175.html
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Trawlers and other fishing boats goes out in almost any weather. What are the crew wearing and where do they buy it?
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Trawlers and other fishing boats goes out in almost any weather. What are the crew wearing and where do they buy it?
What side of the planet are you on? It varies greatly.
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Re: Alternative foul weather gear

https://grundens.com/pages/mens-apparel


https://grundens.com/


https://www.hhworkwear.com/en_us_ww/...ercial-fishing


Google "commercial fishing clothing"
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All good suggestions but I was not really looking for brand ideas and sources. In the OP I posed the question what would I be missing by buying modern high tech work wear instead of spending $2000 on a recognized offshore marine brand.
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All good suggestions but I was not really looking for brand ideas and sources. In the OP I posed the question what would I be missing by buying modern high tech work wear instead of spending $2000 on a recognized offshore marine brand.

It could go either way:
You could become "un-cool" among the fashion oriented boating community
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You could become really cool,warm & comfy among the practical $$ concious boating community by choosing tougher,offshore rated workwear.

Tough choice
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This side of the pond, Fladen are popular with the fishing and charter boat crews:

https://www.fishermansclothing.co.uk...46-p-1175.html

I've been using Fladen gear for many years. Excellent.
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Re: Alternative foul weather gear

While it won’t reduce your budget, we find that Ocean Rodeo dry suits beat any two piece foulies on the market. (We have the SAR inspired ‘Boss’ models.)

For heavy duty use we prefer Stormr (not a typo) gear. We chose their Strykr (still no typo…) line for our high latitude comfort and safety.

In case either are of interest.

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In a thrift store in Reno, I bought two new sets of construction worker rainsuits. They are PVC over cloth. Not insulated.

Two sets, $20.

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While it won’t reduce your budget, we find that Ocean Rodeo dry suits beat any two piece foulies on the market. (We have the SAR inspired ‘Boss’ models.)

For heavy duty use we prefer Stormr (not a typo) gear. We chose their Strykr (still no typo…) line for our high latitude comfort and safety.

In case either are of interest.

Cheers! Bill

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Not cruising, but I love my gear from Truewerk for farm/construction/forestry work.

My experience is that a lot of gear seems like its made for similar conditions "wet" or "cold" but there is a huge difference in the setting. Ski wear vs alpine wear differs significantly in weight although they do similar things in similar weather. "Wet" is also very relative ... rain is NOT the same as the foredeck in about any condition. Most of the less expensive gear is also meant to be easily replaced ... commercial fishing gear ain't cheap but boats are large enough to bring multiple sets: it gets ripped/torn? no problem.

But cruising... its like the triangle of cheap, fast, well: choose two. I'd suggest we're dealing with performance, durability, low-cost. So if you go with low-cost you are losing either performance or durability.

And as a footnote ... I'm a total evangelist for TrueWerk. Its embarassing but I commonly wear their pants, jacket and vest at the same time. I'd totally use the bibs on a boat, but not as a waterproof layer.
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OK this works.
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