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31-12-2011, 14:54
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2012 Cost of Living Indicator for Liveaboards
Ok to get tabs on the actual cost to buy basic supplies in various places around the world please indicate where you are and the best price to purchase the following items.
You will note i've taken advice on some items from the previous thread.
4 Litres Diesel fuel. (1.056 US gallons)
4 Litres petrol.
4 Litres milk.
1 Kg fish/seafood, basic. (2.2lb)
700gram Loaf bread (1.5lb)
1 Medium uncooked dressed chicken.
12 Eggs.
Price in local currency and if you have time the equivelant US value, dont forget to add where you are....
Cheers Frank.
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31-12-2011, 15:42
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
G'day, Mate, Happy New Year Here's the data from the Bay of Islands, New Zealand:
1. $6.50 NZD
2. $8.40 NZD
3. $7.20 NZD
4. $18.00 NZD (varies a bit, this is the lower end)
5. $2.30 NZD
6. $11.00 NZD
7. $3.00 NZD
Total = $56.40 NZD. Current USD (@.77) = $43.42 today. I so wish the Gnomes of Zurich would make their minds up on the exchange rate :-)!! Happy New Year. Cheers
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31-12-2011, 16:39
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
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Originally Posted by matauwhi
G'day, Mate, Happy New Year Here's the data from the Bay of Islands, New Zealand:
1. $6.50 NZD
2. $8.40 NZD
3. $7.20 NZD
4. $18.00 NZD (varies a bit, this is the lower end)
5. $2.30 NZD
6. $11.00 NZD
7. $3.00 NZD
Total = $56.40 NZD. Current USD (@.77) = $43.42 today. I so wish the Gnomes of Zurich would make their minds up on the exchange rate :-)!! Happy New Year. Cheers
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Love the Bay of Islands magic country!!!!! Exchange rate right now is based on Journo's rumour mongering and traders manipulation. Frustrating with a capital Frust!!!!!!
Cheers Happy New year to u .....
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31-12-2011, 17:22
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
Everything bar the fuel is from the local Woolworths, look left for my location....
1. $5.91 AUS
2. $5.68 AUS
3. $4.00 AUS
4. $7.99 AUS (Imported Basa, expect to pay more for the local stuff)
5. $1.00 AUS
6. $9.83 AUS
7. $3.01 AUS
Total AUS = $37.42
Total US = $38.20 (Using XE - Universal Currency Converter )
Other than the fish and the chook, all the above foodstuffs are Woolies Homebrand...
Disclaimer: Other than the fuel i would not touch any of them...
John
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31-12-2011, 21:34
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
$3.94 / gal (diesel)
$3.65 to $3.97 (Cheap Unleaded to Premium Grade Gasoline)
$3.65 / gal (Milk)
$4.22 / lb for Shrimp uncooked
$2.28 / loaf of white bread
$6.48 / dressed chicken
$1.86 / 1 dozen regular white eggs
Northern California USA
Total $26.08 to $26.40
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02-01-2012, 14:31
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
Disclaimer: Other than the fuel i would not touch any of them...
Agree on that!!!!!
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02-01-2012, 15:33
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Visiting Colombia. These prices from Carrefour which I am told is about 10% higher than a local grocery. Beef, pork and potatoes are the staples here and I am told fish will be a bit cheaper on the coast (cartagena)
Prices are Colombian pesos and usd.
4ltr diesel = cop 8454 = $4.38
4ltr gasoline = cop 9088 = $4.71
4ltr milk = cop 7680 = $3.98
1kg red snapper = cop 9100 = $4.72
Loaf bread = cop 2250 = $1.17
1 whole chicken = cop 18,000 = $9.34
Dozen eggs = cop 4750 = $2.46
Total = cop 59322 = $30.77
Bonus items
1kg chicken breast = cop 12,000 = $6.22
1kg ground beef = cop 4600 = $2.39
1kg potatoes = cop 4880 = $2.53
Big mac meal = cop 12,500 = $6.48
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02-01-2012, 15:59
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
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Originally Posted by IslandHopper
Disclaimer: Other than the fuel i would not touch any of them...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lagoon4us
Agree on that!!!!!
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You do realise that homebrand milk , eggs and bread are made the same way as most of the expensive brands?
Please tell me you are not paying more for pretty packaging and a label in the false belief that they are in some way better than others
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02-01-2012, 17:17
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
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Originally Posted by cat man do
You do realise that homebrand milk , eggs and bread are made the same way as most of the expensive brands?
Please tell me you are not paying more for pretty packaging and a label in the false belief that they are in some way better than others
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You are convincing more and more, with each post you make on these forums, that you are nothing more than a keyboard warrior who gets his jollies stirring for a fight.....
You know ***t....
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02-01-2012, 17:26
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
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Originally Posted by IslandHopper
You are convincing more and more, with each post you make on these forums, that you are nothing more than a keyboard warrior who gets his jollies stirring for a fight....
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Nah, but I do like pulling people up on silly comments
especially ones that are so easily shown to be silly
Is that right
Are you now going to tell us that the more expensive name brand providers use "special" cows and chickens to give milk and eggs?
And in what way are these cows and chickens "special" ?
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02-01-2012, 17:42
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
You would do well to do some research
Quote:
In short — especially when it comes to milk, eggs, bread and cheese — not that much. Many generics are made in the same factory as branded products by the same companies. Sometimes they are even the same recipe.
One industry source told Crikey he “didn’t think for a minute” there was any difference between the premium and generic milk: ”How do you change the recipe? Add water? That would affect the fat content. They’re the same.”
National Foods, the suppliers of Pura Milk and Woolworths Home Brand generic milk, seems to agree. Last year, former executive Conor O’Malley told the Senate Economics Committee that Pura Milk and Woolworths generic milk are “broadly the same”. And Challenge Dairy executive chairman Larry Brennan said: ”The national health standard … sets the standard and you cannot adulterate white, liquid, fresh milk.”
Yet the price differential is significant. According to figures tabled by the Committee, home brand milk retails for around 60% of the cost of branded milk, despite it being almost an identical product. Home brand cheese averages out at 70% of the price of its branded equivalent, while bread can sometimes retail at 28% of the price of its “premium” brand rival.
Woolworths and Coles home brand: how different is it to the brands? | Crikey
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and another article from choice magazine with the same conclusion
http://www.choice.com.au/reviews-and...ket-brand.aspx
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02-01-2012, 23:21
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
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Originally Posted by cat man do
You do realise that homebrand milk , eggs and bread are made the same way as most of the expensive brands?
Please tell me you are not paying more for pretty packaging and a label in the false belief that they are in some way better than others
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We bake our own bread, use longlife or condensed milk and wouldn't eat Basa when local fish are plentiful. Always done it that way?
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03-01-2012, 00:47
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
And in what way are these cows and chickens "special"
They were the 'chosen ones'????
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03-01-2012, 21:58
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
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Originally Posted by Ex-Calif
Visiting Colombia. These prices from Carrefour which I am told is about 10% higher than a local grocery. Beef, pork and potatoes are the staples here and I am told fish will be a bit cheaper on the coast (cartagena)
Prices are Colombian pesos and usd.
4ltr diesel = cop 8454 = $4.38
4ltr gasoline = cop 9088 = $4.71
4ltr milk = cop 7680 = $3.98
1kg red snapper = cop 9100 = $4.72
Loaf bread = cop 2250 = $1.17
1 whole chicken = cop 18,000 = $9.34
Dozen eggs = cop 4750 = $2.46
Total = cop 59322 = $30.77
Bonus items
1kg chicken breast = cop 12,000 = $6.22
1kg ground beef = cop 4600 = $2.39
1kg potatoes = cop 4880 = $2.53
Big mac meal = cop 12,500 = $6.48
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IM noticing milk and fuel price fairly similar....strange?
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04-01-2012, 00:14
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Re: 2012 Cost of living indicator for liveaboards.
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Originally Posted by cat man do
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Dont belive everything you read mate!!!
Go buy some black and gold loo paper and some quality loo paper and let us know the difference!!
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