Yachtworld listing date?

[goeasy123]

Is there a way to work out from a listing on Yachtworld what date a boat was first listed or how long it's been on?


There are search order options for newest first and oldest first listing, but not the dates... so there's probably a date record somewhere.

[grantmc]

This isn't going to help you, as I don't see a way of getting at the listing date.

But for a long time I've been keeping a simple spreadsheet of boats I'm interested in. I record make, model, price, date I see it, year built and a bit of other stuff. I'm only really interested in my own make of yacht and there aren't that many out there.

But it allows me to keep an eye on prices and availability.

I've been much more aggressive at keeping records in my spreadsheet when I've been in the market. I especially look for price reductions, length oif time not selling etc.

I also copy any interesting photos with the view to possibly incorporating any ideas I see perhaps as projects I'll do myself in the future.

[goeasy123]

Originally Posted by grantmc

This isn't going to help you, as I don't see a way of getting at the listing date.

But for a long time I've been keeping a simple spreadsheet of boats I'm interested in. I record make, model, price, date I see it, year built and a bit of other stuff. I'm only really interested in my own make of yacht and there aren't that many out there.

But it allows me to keep an eye on prices and availability.

I've been much more aggressive at keeping records in my spreadsheet when I've been in the market. I especially look for price reductions, length oif time not selling etc.

I also copy any interesting photos with the view to possibly incorporating any ideas I see perhaps as projects I'll do myself in the future.

That's my kind of thinking!

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by goeasy123

Is there a way to work out from a listing on Yachtworld what date a boat was first listed or how long it's been on?


There are search order options for newest first and oldest first listing, but not the dates... so there's probably a date record somewhere.

Any member yacht broker or surveyor with a Yachtworld boatwizard account can get that info.

[MicHughV]

I think you can safely assume by the " price reduced by $XXX" that the boat has been on there for a year or more.

This past weekend I spent an afternoon at a waterside bar/restaurant along the ICW with some friends.

We were there for several hours. In all that time, I saw two vessels heading south. One a smallish trawler and the other a small cabin cruiser. No sailboats of any kind.
No boat traffic going north.

In bygone years, there'd be dozens of boats going by.

The boating industry, especially the sailboat industry is dead as a doornail from where I stand. Certainly, it is a buyers market, as many sailboat owners are getting to be quite desperate in trying to unload their respective craft.

[goeasy123]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

I think you can safely assume by the " price reduced by $XXX" that the boat has been on there for a year or more.

This past weekend I spent an afternoon at a waterside bar/restaurant along the ICW with some friends.

We were there for several hours. In all that time, I saw two vessels heading south. One a smallish trawler and the other a small cabin cruiser. No sailboats of any kind.
No boat traffic going north.

In bygone years, there'd be dozens of boats going by.

The boating industry, especially the sailboat industry is dead as a doornail from where I stand. Certainly, it is a buyers market, as many sailboat owners are getting to be quite desperate in trying to unload their respective craft.

That's useful. Thanks


We want to buy a 40ft...ish mobo to do the Great American Loop. We're UK citizens, not US so a top requirement is something that will sell quickly when we're done in a year or two. Hence the desire to know listing dates to find out which boats turnover well....and to filter out lemons in the first place.

[MicHughV]

That's a toss of the dice there. What is always difficult to ascertain is what type of engine maintenance the boat has had, especially if sitting idle at some or other dock.
Trying to find a boat from the UK is another challenge, as there is no telling where it might be located, and I'd certainly recommend having some backup choices.

If...and when you finally finish your trip, the boat will have several 100 more hours on the engine(s) and selling it will be that much more tenuous.

Seeing as you are UK citizens, I presume you will head home after the trip and leave the boat in the hands of a broker, which will be another challenge.
Were it me, I'd aim for a trawler type boat, twin engines a must. Diesels off course.
After you purchase the boat, plan on spending some time and money on it prior to leaving on an extended trip.
Be mindful that after two years of usage or so, the boat will be that much older, with many more hours on the engine(s), which would likely present a red flag to most potential new buyers so a likely selling price will be substantially lower than what you paid for it.

If the boat had been on the market for a long time before you bought it, it is likely to be on the market for a long time when you sell it. In the meantime, dockage costs, insurance, etc, does not stop, so you will be on the hook for these expenses.

Some points to chew on while you decide.

[CaptTom]

Doing the Great Loop in a purpose-bought boat, then selling it after, is pretty common. I don't see the few extra hours on the engines and one extra year of age pulling down the value of a used trawler very much. That assumes it is in about the same state, cosmetically and mechanically, as when it was purchased. Those things are far more important to a smart buyer.

There are Great Loop groups on Facebook, and the AGLCA (America's Great Loop Cruising Association) you can join. You'll often see trawlers for sale there, from people who did exactly what the OP is planning.

There isn't much opportunity to sail on the loop, and air draught is a concern in many areas, which is why trawlers are the usual choice.

As for single vs. twin screw, one consideration is whether you want to take the Dismal Swamp or not. That stretch is shallow and full of submerged logs which can get disturbed by passing boats and give you a bit of a "thump." Just a nuisance if you have a full keel protecting a single prop and rudder. If you have two unprotected sets of shafts, struts and props, that can have a very different ending.

Cruising in general is way down here in the Northeast, too. There are plenty of boats being bought, and marinas are all full. But these are mostly either day boats or trophy boats. Nobody actually goes anywhere in them for any length of time.

[goeasy123]

Originally Posted by CaptTom

Doing the Great Loop in a purpose-bought boat, then selling it after, is pretty common. I don't see the few extra hours on the engines and one extra year of age pulling down the value of a used trawler very much. That assumes it is in about the same state, cosmetically and mechanically, as when it was purchased. Those things are far more important to a smart buyer.

There are Great Loop groups on Facebook, and the AGLCA (America's Great Loop Cruising Association) you can join. You'll often see trawlers for sale there, from people who did exactly what the OP is planning.

There isn't much opportunity to sail on the loop, and air draught is a concern in many areas, which is why trawlers are the usual choice.

As for single vs. twin screw, one consideration is whether you want to take the Dismal Swamp or not. That stretch is shallow and full of submerged logs which can get disturbed by passing boats and give you a bit of a "thump." Just a nuisance if you have a full keel protecting a single prop and rudder. If you have two unprotected sets of shafts, struts and props, that can have a very different ending.

Cruising in general is way down here in the Northeast, too. There are plenty of boats being bought, and marinas are all full. But these are mostly either day boats or trophy boats. Nobody actually goes anywhere in them for any length of time.

Thanks, We're somewhere down the line on the process, joined the AGLCA and have shortlisted Mainship. The other non-trawler main loopers are Carver, Meridian and the like.


We wanted to get the 'date listed' to filter out some of the dross. I'm told a broker trick is to start high and drop the price in increments to keep a boat near the top of the search criteria. Charging the price resets the search by 'newest listed....'

[TheOffice]

In the real estate business it is common to remove a listing and then repost it to reset the date. Don't know if yacht brokers do the same.
Mainship is a good choice!

[CaptTom]

Your short list is solid. Just keep an eye on air draught. As an AGLCA member you'll no doubt already have reviewed the route and any height restrictions.

[bdgWesternMass]

You could try searching archive.org.

I would start with the actual yacht world listing url for the boat in question.

If that doesn’t work searching for the terms in the listing might work.

Ben

[Tin Tin]

Get a Grand Banks the Classics hardly depreciate over a year if you keep it in good nick.