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Old 24-08-2020, 09:18   #16
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When I took my 3 day diesel courses with Mack Boring, the instructor informed us that ll the tools they were providing us were from Harbor Freight and recommended we not spend too much on tools. Those worked just fine. They will all rust after awhile if not taken care of.
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I would get a used set of beryllium copper for the tools most used and tie a lanyard to them whenever they might fall in or get droped into the bilge where they cannot be easily reached. For the less used and specialized tools I use a spray like WD40 and keep an oily rag in the tool box to wipe them off before and after each use. I also like to wear cheap disposable rubber gloves to reduce the oil on my hands. My teacher at the diesel mechanics school I went to said I was the only student he ever had do that. For electric drills etc I wipe off the handles with a paper towel after use as the oil destroys some cheap rubber handles. Also keep ratcheting tools well lubricated.
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Old 24-08-2020, 09:26   #18
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Heck, at my age I don't even buy green bananas.
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I'm wondering, what is the best philosophy in regards to stocking your boat with tools, both hand tools and power tools? Normally, for my home workshop, I tend to go with high quality tools that I know will perform well and last a long time. But obviously on a boat, corrosion will be an issue, especially in things like power tools and hand tools like ratchets. Should I just stick with my normal philosophy and buy high quality tools, hoping that the quality will translate into longer usable life? or go with more budget tools with the philosophy to replace them if they become unusable?
At home if a tool breaks you run down the street for a replacement, not so at sea when it may be critical.
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At home if a tool breaks you run down the street for a replacement, not so at sea when it may be critical.
Good point!
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Old 24-08-2020, 10:40   #21
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"If you need a tool and don’t buy it, you pay for it without getting it."
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I have a mix on my boat. For some tools, only the best will do - screwdrivers, Allen keys, crimp tools. For others, cheap is ok - socket wrenches, box wrenches. Obviously hammers, crowbars, etc. Also tools which are rarely used.

I use cheap where possible because you lose them so often (the sea, other sailors, etc). Multiple backups for key tools.

I guess the hardest tool to make well, not counting complex tools like crimpers , is screwdrivers, i guess. The metal must be really hard, the cut perfect. I spend big money on good screwdrivers without regret.
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Power Tools in particular I prefer quality battery tools.

Hand Tools are quality as well, except for those that I tend to loose. (Screw Drivers, Allen Wrenches) I will have quality versions stowed, and keep a few lesser quality for everyday use, especially on the deck.
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The difference is that when you're sailing and the tool breaks, you can't go and get a new one. Go for good quality and you will save a lot of time, money and agony
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I have a mix on my boat. For some tools, only the best will do - screwdrivers, Allen keys, crimp tools. For others, cheap is ok - socket wrenches, box wrenches. Obviously hammers, crowbars, etc. Also tools which are rarely used.

I use cheap where possible because you lose them so often (the sea, other sailors, etc). Multiple backups for key tools.

I guess the hardest tool to make well, not counting complex tools like crimpers , is screwdrivers, i guess. The metal must be really hard, the cut perfect. I spend big money on good screwdrivers without regret.
I don't disagree but screw drives seems to have a penitence for going overboard. Probably the most used topsides.
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Old 24-08-2020, 11:42   #26
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When I first outfitted my current boat I bought Harbor Freight, now I've replaced ALL of them with high quality tools, thye work better & last longer.

Yes, wipe them with oily rag after use.
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For easy access screw drivers I have several multi blade ones that work great stashed around the boat, but I do have a good set separated between my electrical tool box(small sizes) and mechanical tool box ( large ones)......

I buy hand many tools from the place I buy my wood working tools Lee Valley.... they do a good job sourcing things like multi blade screw drivers and other hand tools...
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When I was younger, I had a cheap automotive toolkit aboard. I don’t think it lasted the year. Screwdrivers, box wrenches, ratchets, crimpers, all that sort are of appropriate quality.

Power tools are pretty much all cheap-o or cheap-o adjacent. Seems to be fine for some reason. All get regular but light use.
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Power Tools in particular I prefer quality battery tools.

Hand Tools are quality as well, except for those that I tend to loose. (Screw Drivers, Allen Wrenches) I will have quality versions stowed, and keep a few lesser quality for everyday use, especially on the deck.
This is interesting to me. I’m the exact opposite.

I will not but a battery powered tool at all. Ever.

I am fearful of the battery running out when I need it or just the battery getting old and starting to go down hill. I use an extension cord and my house bank as the battery.
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Here’s another perspective- if it has moving parts whether a crescent wrench or a drill, I generally buy decent tools. No moving parts, like a screw driver or pliers or wrench I go Harbor Freight. I work on my boat more than most folks I know & cant remember when one of my HF tools broke.

Worse though has been my experience with battery operated equipment; good for a few years and then the battery starts to lose it. Given their price it’s almost worth buying a new one.

I’d agree, both cheap & expensive tools have equally great penchants for a good swim. And the wanderlust of a 10 mm socket & drill bits are legendary.
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