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30-08-2009, 09:37
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Marathon, Boot key harbor
Boat: CSY 44 w/o hull# 158 S/V Leighward
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Stove: Electric vs Propane
need some input.........if you had a choice would it be electric or propane....no genset...
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30-08-2009, 09:52
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: West Indies, Now live aboard as cruiser/ voyager often with guest/ friends
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If your going to use it go Propane.... if your just going to look at it then Electric would work.
Do you have any idea how much power an Electric stove would require. Basically useless unless you are in a slip or have a genset.
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30-08-2009, 10:07
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Pac NW
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I've seen some of these electric stoves on boats, even "regular-size" sailboats. How can they possibly make them work? Surely, these things must suck massive amounts of electrons!?
While you have to be sure that your propane system is properly installed, and you should have a monitor/alarm, after that, they are cheap, easy, reliable, common, and no electricity required. What's not to like?
ID
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30-08-2009, 10:30
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Marathon, Boot key harbor
Boat: CSY 44 w/o hull# 158 S/V Leighward
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thats what i thought! was looking at a csy 44 and was wondering why the guy put an new electric stove in it...at 1500 watts with one burner on, that would suck a bank down in a hurry.........guess it's a dock Queen.......LOL
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30-08-2009, 10:54
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1500 watts! Holy moly -- all I wanted was a cup of coffee! That just makes no sense, to me. I don't even like electric stoves in my house.
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.--Ben Franklin
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.--Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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30-08-2009, 12:00
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
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Nothing worse than an electric stove on a sailboat. Friends had a big Morgan with an electric stove and a genset but would not even make a pot of tea as they had to fire up the genset first. Very impractical.
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30-08-2009, 12:38
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Marathon, Boot key harbor
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yep that boat is defiantly off my list.......
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30-08-2009, 13:28
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Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
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Propane / butane if no genset. I have seen a boat with electric and they loved it, but they had the genset.
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30-08-2009, 21:41
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Even in a house, electric is slow to heat and cool, and slow to change temp.
Any knowledgeable cook will tell you gas is best.
Steve B.
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30-08-2009, 22:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aboutgone
thats what i thought! was looking at a csy 44 and was wondering why the guy put an new electric stove in it...at 1500 watts with one burner on, that would suck a bank down in a hurry.........guess it's a dock Queen.......LOL
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Does this boat come with an umbrella and wheelbarrow too
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30-08-2009, 22:30
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Manchester Washington
Boat: Irwin- Barefoot 37CC (Custom MK V) "Quest"
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I use propane even with a genset but it does use electricity. 12 volts to my solenoid valve ann bilge sniffer. I bypassed the automatic shutoff on the sniffer because it responded to diesel fumes and just about everything else. It still gives me a warning light however, it just no longer secures my propane.
Have fun
Joe S
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30-08-2009, 23:04
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by svquest2
I bypassed the automatic shutoff on the sniffer because it responded to diesel fumes and just about everything else. It still gives me a warning light however, it just no longer secures my propane.
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Yikes!
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31-08-2009, 16:12
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Manchester Washington
Boat: Irwin- Barefoot 37CC (Custom MK V) "Quest"
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Yes scotte, I believe you would too if you used your nose and knew that there was no propane in the bilge but you couldn't cook or shower (I also have a propane on demand water heater), because the auto shutoff wouldn't let the solenoid open. What you do is use your nose to check if the alarm light comes on when you put power to the switch. If there is no propane odor, you open the solenoid. It sure beats going hungry.
I have also bypassed the low pressure cutoff on my gen set when it was faulty (until I could get it replaced) and I normally disconnect my O2 alarm until I put the propane on.
Have you ever been wakened in the middle of the night when an O2 alarm went off for no apparent reason except for maybe CO2 from exhaling in your sleep? Some automatic controls can be very annoying; but defeating them at any time has to be done with common sense.
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31-08-2009, 23:21
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I filled a 5-gallon propane tank (I think -- it's the standard BBQ-size tank), to cook for a crew of six for two weeks, then for a crew of four for 2-1/2 weeks, then took the tank home and it's still running my propane BBQ. I can't imagine the gallons of diesel and engine or genset-hours that would be needed to do the same with an electric stove.
I vote for propane.
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01-09-2009, 04:14
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Even with a genset I would use propane. One tank will last the two of us for a couple of months. And in the colder months we put one of those red clay pots for planting flowers over one of the burners and it heats up the area nicely.
I certainly would never second guess someone elses procedures, however, I know on my boat I would not bypass a propane safety feature. Having to wake up occassionally to silence an alarm is the price of safety and potentially not blowing my boat up. Only MHO....
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