Katadyn Repair Parts Policy

[Talbot]

I am surprised that some would consider that a less advanced country would have less likelihood of appropriate spares. IMHO the less advanced, the more likely that equipment to repair stuff is likely to be available. They will not have a throw away ethos, or some crazy non-right to repair, but do a Mcgyver in order to get something working.
Anyone thinking different, I suggest you look at some of the youtube videos of mechanical repair shops in Pakistan.

[vpbarkley]

Measure and source all the o-rings before you leave civilization.

Here is the Parker o-ring handbook:

https://www.parker.com/literature/O-...g_Handbook.pdf

[SailingHarmonie]

Originally Posted by wingssail

Raymond, Yes they do use O-Rings and other seals in Mexico, and in most countries. I've shopped for various seals and O-rings here and in several other countries world wide. I know the routine.

The problem that the shops are usually not well stocked and their inventory systems are rarely updated. So you walk in with a handful of samples and they start looking for something similar, comparing them with micrometer if you are lucky, by eyeball if not. And if you need four of any one part, they might have one or two. You may find some, but to build a full kit would be nearly impossible. You are much better off buying online from somebody like SealSource. At least then you may be able to buy exact replacements at a much better price than from the equipment manufacturer (until you run into a proprietary part that is not in common usage).

I can tell you that to build a full seal kit for a Power Survivor with all 19 different pieces by shopping at an O-Ring shop in any third world country would be a time consuming and frustrating process.

This is exactly why cruisers looking to be self sufficient carry o-ring kits in metric and SAE sizes that allow them to make whatever size o-ring they need.

[StoneCrab]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

O rings, piston and wiper seals are generally manufactured by companies like Parker and are available from places which service hydraulic, pneumatic and bearings equipment, and if you take samples to one of them you might be able to purchase replacements.

If you do this, please share the part numbers here with others. I also have one of these.

[CarinaPDX]

To confirm: the pump and membrane parts of the PowerSurvivor 35 and the Survivor 35 are the same. My PowerSurvivor 35 came with the lever handle to convert it back to a Survivor 35, which then only lacked the nice shroud over the hinge point.

The PowerSurvivor 40E has the same interface between the motor and pump as the 35, and at one time an upgrade kit was available which used the owner's 35 motor and membrane and attached to the 40E pump. (The 40E motor is a bit different but is functionally interchangeable.) The 35 was overly complex and also prone to failure when used in high salinity, as the plastic pump body could fail in those conditions (higher salinity resulted in higher working pressures). The 40E has far fewer parts and has a SS pump body. If the upgrade kit is still available then that is the best solution. If you buy a spare membrane at the same time you can convert the 35 to manual mode and put it in your abandon ship bag, as I did. Frankly I don't understand why everyone didn't upgrade to a 40E when it came out, as the upgrade kit was quite affordable.

Greg

[betwys1]

Originally Posted by wingssail

Tellie, /snip/
your plethora of power survivor 35's on ebay is exactly one.

I found a dozen or more....

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by betwys1

I found a dozen or more....

Really I found one myself now there are are also 5 of the manual survivor35 units as well . But they are not powersurvivor35s

[Greg K]

A bit off topic, but does anyone know how long a new, never used PUR Survivor-06 unit is still usable? Mine, which I purchased for a single handed Atlantic crossing, has remained in it's storage bag unused since new in 2002. Is the never used membrane and other parts such as seals, O-rings etc... still usable and, if not, is it possible to purchase replacements to rebuild this unit?


Also, are the PUR Survivor-06 parts interchangeable with the Katadyn Survivor-06. From the diagrams it looks to be exactly the same unit. Anybody know?

[newhaul]

Update from marine warehouse . They responded to me and said they have plenty of the survivor35 rebuild kits .
Part #

8013053
Katadyn 35LS Repair Seal Kit
$75.00
Katadyn Water Makers
Point of contact is Jonathan Bijl.

[Capt Simon]

Coincidently just last week bought the Power Survivor 35 seal kit from Aus company: Southern Seas Marine

My PS35 was bought from a used parts shop, I got new membrane and now seal kit, but I suspect I may be missing a "reject tube"?
I see some diagrams which show this, but no other info or photos can be found.
Would be very grateful if a PS35 owner could post a photo of this tube and cap/disk that runs back down inside the membrane.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Capt Simon

Coincidently just last week bought the Power Survivor 35 seal kit from Aus company: Southern Seas Marine

My PS35 was bought from a used parts shop, I got new membrane and now seal kit, but I suspect I may be missing a "reject tube"?
I see some diagrams which show this, but no other info or photos can be found.
Would be very grateful if a PS35 owner could post a photo of this tube and cap/disk that runs back down inside the membrane.

Here is a screenshot of the parts list from the manual I have .
Dm me your email . I will send you the pdf of the book . Just put PS35 in the dm

[FlyingScot]

I just got my hands on a Survivor 35 that appears to be in good condition. I've only tested fresh water through it.

Reading this thread and doing a little research I though I would share some links I have found.

https://support.katadyngroup.com/401...s-DISCONTINUED

The PowerSurvivor 35 has not been manufactured for more than 20 years now. The only replacement parts that are available are a membrane (8012793 MEMBRANE KIT 35/40/80) and a modified Survivor 35 Repair Seal Kit. Factory rebuilds are not offered for PowerSurvivor 35 systems.

The Survivor 35 Seal Kit and its instructions were designed for both the PowerSurvivor 35 and the hand operation 35.

(1)8013053 35 REPAIR SEAL KIT / 604375130531

However, since the PowerSurvivor has been discontinued for over 20 years, a few parts of the kit have been removed. We suggest you also order:

(1)8013013 68 O-RING

(4)8013012 67 O-RING

Finally, the kit comes with two bushings, 8012966 and 8012967. We suggest you do not replace these and instead re-use the ones from your pump. Particularly the 8012966 as you will see it is a different size.

https://support.katadyngroup.com/639...rvice-Schedule

Similar to other lifesaving equipment, these units have a regular service schedule, specifically one year. That is, every year they should be stored with a fresh storage solution once they have been tested with real or simulated seawater (product quality, output, no leaks). For units used in regulated environments, we have a more detailed testing procedure that involves Katadyn testing equipment and pre-calibrated solutions.

Units that have not been serviced for 4+ years typically need a new membrane.

Organizing a factory service is done through an authorized Spectra Watermakers distributor, see link below.

Based on long-term testing and the material of the unit (plastic), if the unit is older than 12 years (from date of manufacture on inspection card) we recommend that the unit be replaced. After this length of time, the plastic body can become compromised and the internal parts may fail. Older, unmaintained units present a liability in the field when they are suddenly needed during an emergency situation.

Katadyn will not perform a factory service on units manufactured over 12 years ago.

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

...The PowerSurvivor 35 has not been manufactured for more than 20 years now. The only replacement parts that are available are a membrane (8012793 MEMBRANE KIT 35/40/80) and a modified Survivor 35 Repair Seal Kit...

Yeah, well it still irks me that I have a perfectly good machine which is still working, and the only recommendation is to throw it away and replace it.

The idea that we should discard something simply because it is old is stupid, and wasteful.

But FlyingScot, thanks for getting the bulletin from katadyn, and, of course, they have a good case for not relying on such old devices when they could be a matter of safety.

However, my use of it is not a matter of safety, just utility. My Power Survivor 35 still has utility, and they make the parts, so why can't i keep using it instead of spending several thousand dollars and replacing it? Dang! Just sell me the parts which you are still providing for the Survivor 35.

BTW I have a supply now so never mind,

[catsketcher]

Gday people,

I have taken the advice of people on the forum and have bought a new 2514 membrane housing for my PUR 80 watermaker.

My problem is gettign new hoses made up for it. I just talked to a hydraulic hose specialist and he said that he couldn't help me. He didn't have hose for potable water and no high pressure hose went above 10 bar - 145 psi. I told him that the membrane housing and pump could push water out at up t 1000psi. He said he couldn't help.

I may have asked for flexible hose. Maybe I have to ask them to make up stainless hose with bends and ends.

I may be able to keep one of the old membrane housings and leave it empty but that probably has problems with the energy recovery side of things.

How did people change housings on the Power survivor 80?

cheers

Phil

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by catsketcher

Gday people,

I have taken the advice of people on the forum and have bought a new 2514 membrane housing for my PUR 80 watermaker.

My problem is gettign new hoses made up for it. I just talked to a hydraulic hose specialist and he said that he couldn't help me. He didn't have hose for potable water and no high pressure hose went above 10 bar - 145 psi. I told him that the membrane housing and pump could push water out at up t 1000psi. He said he couldn't help.

I may have asked for flexible hose. Maybe I have to ask them to make up stainless hose with bends and ends.

I may be able to keep one of the old membrane housings and leave it empty but that probably has problems with the energy recovery side of things.

How did people change housings on the Power survivor 80?

cheers

Phil

Thermoplastic pressure hose is manufactured for a broad range of applications. Have a look at the Dynaflex range of products.