iPad Pro - 1000 nits

[Iron E]

In case anyone is interested, iPad Pro 13 boasts an impressive 1000 nits full-screen brightness and 1600 nits peak HDR brightness.

This particular spec is the clincher for me to go to the cross over to the dark side.

[idclic]

I just went from an iPad Air 2 to an iPad Pro with the Nano texture-glass. Costs a fortune as you have to get at least one TB of memory to get the option to add the nano texture glass but really does cut the glare. Also went with the cellular version with the gps so I don't have to use the external gps puck anymore. If you're in the market for a new iPad and you want to use it with Navionics, the Pro with the textured glass is the way to go. I just got the 11'' by the way. Screen was a little larger than my iPad Air but still fits in the same Ram mount

[Iron E]

Originally Posted by idclic

I just went from an iPad Air 2 to an iPad Pro with the Nano texture-glass. Costs a fortune as you have to get at least one TB of memory to get the option to add the nano texture glass but really does cut the glare. Also went with the cellular version with the gps so I don't have to use the external gps puck anymore. If you're in the market for a new iPad and you want to use it with Navionics, the Pro with the textured glass is the way to go. I just got the 11'' by the way. Screen was a little larger than my iPad Air but still fits in the same Ram mount

Yeah, I was looking at all of the options: glass, storage, pen, case, and it really adds up.
But the costs seem worth it, considering you can use it for navigation, watching movies, editing videos, complex note-taking, and reading books. I use Photoshop and Illustrator, so there's that, too. I wish it had satellite connectivity, but maybe the next one.

[bdgWesternMass]

Definitely looking at the 11" pro.

What cases if any?

I was thinking these both looked good.

https://incipio.com/collections/ipad...-5-black-clear

https://www.drycase.com/products/waterproof-phone-case

[idclic]

I just got a basic leather case Apple sells and I don't use the case in the ram mount. It didn't make sense to use a case with a plastic cover or glass to cover the nato texture glass of the iPad as you would lose the glare cutting benefits. It doesn't rain under my dodger and I could use a large ziplock freezer bag in a pinch should I need more rain protection.

[FlyingScot]

Unless mainly for navigation outside , I would not get the fancy nano coating. It really dulls the colors. Quick YouTube search demonstrates this if you aren't close to a retailer. We just upgraded our iPad Air 3 cellular to 13" pro cellular. I went back and forth about the coating which as mentioned forces you up to 1TB storage. We only wanted 512GB and Apple memory upgrades are ALWAYS expensive.

Overall, the iPad Pro 13" is one incredible device. Insanely fast operation at every task. Screen is incredible. On par with my Lenovo ThinkPad Carbon G1 Gen 12.

The big negative is the price!

[Exile]

Also HEAT in my experience. Don't have any time with the new ones but both my older iPad and my Mini will shut down if exposed to hot (open) cockpit conditions. Maybe okay under a dodger or otherwise shielded from direct sunlight.

[s/v Jedi]

I know that OP is on a smaller boat, but I recommend to use a NMEA to wifi gateway to link the iPad to NMEA instead of using the internal GPS or a separate external GPS. This gets you the full data stream incl. wind, depth etc.

Also, more importantly, this reduces power consumption significantly. Most of those savings are also achieved with a Bluetooth GPS when it is located close to the iPad, so thus is still better than using the internal GPS.

Yes, the nice thing of the internal GPS (it’s really GNSS because it also uses Russian and EU satellite constellations) is that you don’t need anything else. In that case simply use the wifi link whenever it is available and fall back to internal GNSS when not.

Also, with a good wifi gateway, like from Yacht Devices, you get 2-way communication so your iPad can control the autopilot.

[SailingHarmonie]

Originally Posted by Exile

Also HEAT in my experience. Don't have any time with the new ones but both my older iPad and my Mini will shut down if exposed to hot (open) cockpit conditions. Maybe okay under a dodger or otherwise shielded from direct sunlight.

This exactly. If it is in full sun shining on the screen (and if you are not using it in full sun, why would you care about the brighter screen?) it will quickly overheat and shut down.

Also the iPad touch screen becomes unpredictable as soon as it gets one drop of water on it.

I do use my iPad to mirror my display below deck, where it does a great job. In an open cockpit, it is just not an all-weather solution. Of course everybody's situation is different.

If you can tolerate a cockpit display that does not work on a hot day when the sun shines on it and does not work out in the rain, I guess it might be a good choice for you.

[CaptainRivet]

Originally Posted by idclic

I just got a basic leather case Apple sells and I don't use the case in the ram mount. It didn't make sense to use a case with a plastic cover or glass to cover the nato texture glass of the iPad as you would lose the glare cutting benefits. It doesn't rain under my dodger and I could use a large ziplock freezer bag in a pinch should I need more rain protection.

You can get rugged cases that keeps the screen without anything over it and even waterproof it while being protected.
How does the new Qled screen in direct sun, is it overheating like the old?
Instead of the nano textured glass just get a matte screen protector, advisable anyhow to have one on….that reduced glare too.
Have that on all my tablets, shiny Screen in marine use sucks.

[CaptainRivet]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

I know that OP is on a smaller boat, but I recommend to use a NMEA to wifi gateway to link the iPad to NMEA instead of using the internal GPS or a separate external GPS. This gets you the full data stream incl. wind, depth etc.

Also, more importantly, this reduces power consumption significantly. Most of those savings are also achieved with a Bluetooth GPS when it is located close to the iPad, so thus is still better than using the internal GPS.

Yes, the nice thing of the internal GPS (it’s really GNSS because it also uses Russian and EU satellite constellations) is that you don’t need anything else. In that case simply use the wifi link whenever it is available and fall back to internal GNSS when not

Also, with a good wifi gateway, like from Yacht Devices, you get 2-way communication so your iPad can control the autopilot.

That the best tips that Jedi gave he is 1000% right this is the way
Just be aware that most navigation apps use ONLY NMEA 0183 data and for position (eg Navionics and ISailor) it needs the NMEA 0183 RMC data. The yachtdevices YNBR02 wifi dongle is converting and broadcasting your N2K data also in NMEA 0183 onto your wifi network and in parallel with his 2nd of 3 server broadcasting the N2K data.

Several advantages this way Jedi recommended:
A) Using Wi-Fi only also reduces heat in the iPads and also other tablets so they shut off later or even never in direct sun.
B) you save money in only buy the wifi version.
C) You also need to know that the GPS in the apple pro devices is never shut off, even you turn it off it’s still on and uses battery and transmitting data. It also means that a lot of apps is using the internal GPS as it overrights or ignoring the position data it gets externally and you think it does use the NMEA data.
The only way to block the internal GPS is to put in a SIM card in but don‘t put the pin in and unblock it. This way for security the iPad Pro blocks the sim module which delivers the location data.
D) the wifi iPads connect to a wide range of BT GPS pucks while the SIM card ones need apple certified GPS pucks which are min double costs and only few to choose to be able that the iPad Pro SIm allows external position data. You can connect via BT but the external data is never used!
E) the internal GPS In IPads is optimized for land use, means 2D, and then corrected via cellular masts and public Wi-Fi’s plus its height sensor. This can be easily folded by the 3D motion of the water and you have no cellular or WiFi’s at sea to correct it. Using eg Garmin Glo2 BT puck which is marine and aviation certified means it has an GPS that’s optimized for 3D and uses different ways to correct the position electronically to be more precise.
F) That using external BT GPS has its own battery and therefor significantly enlarge the runtime of the tablet on battery is just a welcomed side effect.