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13-12-2013, 21:03
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Good point. I would also be interested in that. I have used Micron in the past but not sure if it is the best or not.
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Hey Tom, just to let you know you have Ameron ABC3 on the bottom of your boat now.
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13-12-2013, 21:03
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Yes it is true that they used copper cladding all the way up to the late 1800's, but it was heavy and had to be riveted to the hull, it was also the cause of deterioration of the planks. and "flyingcloud" is right, it would peel like a banana haha. The copper bottom paint is light years ahead of that old method and the paint not only keeps the bottom clean but also helps preserve the wood. only now since there is so many types of copper bottom paint, its hard to know what's the best
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13-12-2013, 22:19
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Re: Best ablative bottom paint for the tropics….
Used Hyrdocoat before heading south. Been doing a pretty good job.
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13-12-2013, 22:34
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Re: Best ablative bottom paint for the tropics….
Wooden ships used copper sheets below the water line to ward off teredo worms. Paul Revere perfected a way to manufacture thin copper plates for the New England Commercial Fleet which made him a tidy sum. The thin sheets with elastic backing are probably way too thin to last long at all on a boat bottom and probably wouldn't stay stuck. Stick with paint!!!
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14-12-2013, 07:32
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Re: Best ablative bottom paint for the tropics….
Well, Lloyd, I will certainly pass any comments to you first since you have so much experience with copper foil.
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14-12-2013, 07:38
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Re: Best ablative bottom paint for the tropics….
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Originally Posted by FlyingCloud1937
Can't even imagine what it would do to the prop/shaft...?????
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wouldn't do anything to them unless you electrically connected them to the copper cladding
the cladding issue is all about practically of installing it, and it just isn't practical
but there are things like CopperClad expoy systems
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14-12-2013, 08:31
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Re: Best ablative bottom paint for the tropics….
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Originally Posted by sailorboy1
wouldn't do anything to them unless you electrically connected them to the copper cladding
the cladding issue is all about practically of installing it, and it just isn't practical
but there are things like CopperClad expoy systems
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I believe this is what you are referring too. Epoxy based Copper coating. I don't think I would be putting that on my caravel planked hull though
Information about Coppercoat anti-fouling epoxy, its multi-year effectiveness protecting your vessel from growth
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14-12-2013, 08:52
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Re: Best ablative bottom paint for the tropics….
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Hey Tom, just to let you know you have Ameron ABC3 on the bottom of your boat now.
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Any idea what is on the hull above the water line. I am getting Fiberglass Dave to cut out the inside walls of the sugar scoops like on Josh's boat and he wanted to know.
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14-12-2013, 10:23
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Re: Best ablative bottom paint for the tropics….
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Dood, a caravel is an ancient type of boat. It's carvel planked. Plenty of boats still get coppered. It's not that rare.
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14-12-2013, 10:39
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Quote:
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Dood, a caravel is an ancient type of boat. It's carvel planked. Plenty of boats still get coppered. It's not that rare.
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sorry, its my dumb auto correct on my cp. yea there ate still people doing copper sheathing, but impractical, cost prohibitive, water entrapment, heavy, not to mention outdated technology, amid other issues.
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14-12-2013, 11:03
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Re: Best ablative bottom paint for the tropics….
And remember, the coppering was mainly to prevent worm infestation, not anti-fouling as we think of it today. Consider the historically frequent mention of ships being encumbered by growth and needing careening and scraping, etc. Metallic copper is not an effective anti-fouling agent... just look at your barnacle encrusted prop!
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14-12-2013, 12:28
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Originally Posted by Jim Cate
And remember, the coppering was mainly to prevent worm infestation, not anti-fouling as we think of it today. Consider the historically frequent mention of ships being encumbered by growth and needing careening and scraping, etc. Metallic copper is not an effective anti-fouling agent... just look at your barnacle encrusted prop!
Jim
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this is correct Jim
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