Antifouling in Florida

[svlamorocha]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

You're parsing words. The ban is global, however certain a**hole governments have chosen not to become signatories to the treaty.

Peace... In most of the world it is not good manners to call "*******" each sovereign country that does not agree to a single international treaty/convention that is promoted by an international organization.


For example, civilized people do not treat Americans as ******** because the US has not signed UNCLOS, or because Texas does not abide by certain human rights principles that are agreed almost everywhere.




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[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by svlamorocha

Peace... In most of the world it is not good manners to call "*******" each sovereign country that does not agree to a single international treaty/convention that is promoted by an international organization.


For example, civilized people do not treat Americans as ******** because the US has not signed UNCLOS, or because Texas does not abide by certain human rights principles that are agreed almost everywhere.

Did I say that the citizens of the countries in questions were a**holes? No, I did not. In fact, I purposefully used the word "governments" to avoid that connotation. Nice try at spinning me to be the bad guy, but you're the one who isn't doing the right thing. Using a tBt anti fouling paint is unjustifiable, and pretty much everybody here knows it.

[SebastianB]

So where do I go for the tBt bottom paint? #joking#notjoking#maybe

[Steve Pope]

Find me a paint that works as well as TBT did (does) and I will use it. If the us Navy commercial ships and other big brothers don't use TBT, What do they use? and why isn't it available to us smaller bretheren?

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by Steve Pope

Find me a paint that works as well as TBT did (does) and I will use it. If the us Navy commercial ships and other big brothers don't use TBT, What do they use? and why isn't it available to us smaller bretheren?

The U.S. Navy and the commercial shipping industry don't use anything that isn't available to you and me. They use off-the-shelf copper-based anti fouling paints or non-toxic foul-release coatings. For most of us, it's not too tough to figure out why. In a world where TbT paints are banned, it wouldn't make a lot of sense to put it on your ship and then be turned away from the ports where you need to do business.

[fstbttms]

I never cease to be amazed at the sense of entitlement some boat owners display, as if they had some God-given right to use the most poisonous anti fouling paint they can get their hands on.

[S/V Illusion]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

I never cease to be amazed at the sense of entitlement some boat owners display, as if they had some God-given right to use the most poisonous anti fouling paint they can get their hands on.

I missed that part - can you cite where anyone said that?

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by S/V Illusion

...can you cite where anyone said that?

Of course not. Nobody said it.


In so many words, that is.

[SailRedemption]

For those wondering what some commercial vessels use.. Here is what my company uses. I'm a chief mate on a 300' OSV in the Gulf of Mexico. Our boats rarely sit so are constantly underway unless loading/unloading in Port. The bottom is always clean.

They apply it in shipyard with large airless sprayers. It's red, not sure about other colors though.

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[SebastianB]

It never ceases to amaze me how folks get so butt hurt in the world lately. I was mainly making fun of how up in arms folks get over things on the internet that others say. You proved my point. I actually prefer to paint my bottom with a mix of DDT and Glyphosphate....Geez

[S/V Illusion]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

Of course not. Nobody said it.


In so many words, that is.

I forgot. I've had experience with you before.

[SebastianB]

Originally Posted by SailRedemption

For those wondering what some commercial vessels use.. Here is what my company uses. I'm a chief mate on a 300' OSV in the Gulf of Mexico. Our boats rarely sit so are constantly underway unless loading/unloading in Port. The bottom is always clean.

They apply it in shipyard with large airless sprayers. It's red, not sure about other colors though. Attachment 108198

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What vessel you on? I work on production platforms these days but used to deckand engineer for a couple different outfits back in the day. Of course I was on a lot smaller boats though...Some old G-boats and some of the Miss boats for Graham mainly.

[bob_77903]

Originally Posted by svlamorocha

Peace... In most of the world it is not good manners to call "*******" each sovereign country that does not agree to a single international treaty/convention that is promoted by an international organization.


For example, civilized people do not treat Americans as ******** because the US has not signed UNCLOS, or because Texas does not abide by certain human rights principles that are agreed almost everywhere.




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Well, I wasn't going to say anything about you using and trying to justify putting a mostly globally banned paint on your boat bottom, but I sure as HELL won't sit here and have you talk trash about Texas. It's really a shame you don't have a clue....

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by SailRedemption

For those wondering what some commercial vessels use.. Here is what my company uses. I'm a chief mate on a 300' OSV in the Gulf of Mexico. Our boats rarely sit so are constantly underway unless loading/unloading in Port. The bottom is always clean.

The product you use is International Paints (Interlux) Interspeed 6400. It is a self-polishing ablative and uses a dual biocide formulation, being copper and zinc. While this particular product is marketed to the commercial shipping industry, there are many similar paints available on every chandlery shelf.

[SailRedemption]

Originally Posted by SebastianB

What vessel you on? I work on production platforms these days but used to deckand engineer for a couple different outfits back in the day. Of course I was on a lot smaller boats though...Some old G-boats and some of the Miss boats for Graham mainly.

Agnes Candies. Yea, I see the graham boats often. What platform are you on, what company?

Originally Posted by fstbttms

The product you use is International Paints (Interlux) Interspeed 6400. It is a self-polishing ablative and uses a dual biocide formulation, being copper and zinc. While this particular product is marketed to the commercial shipping industry, there are many similar paints available on every chandlery shelf.

Yea, I can get it from Donovan Marine if I wanted to. It has my vote thus far.

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