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20-01-2013, 13:54
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#31
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 8
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
Active Captain IS their personal blog, boat site. I think they might have to raise some revenue to support this project and I am just really glad AC is there as it is a wonderful resource.
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21-01-2013, 11:12
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#32
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
Boat: Valiant 40 (1975)
Posts: 4,073
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
I think the problem is not that you asked the question as much as you asked the question to a bunch of landbound sailors who use AC to fantasize where they are sailing in spring. Don't mess with our toyz!
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22-01-2013, 03:10
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nova Scotia until Spring 2021
Boat: Custom 41' Steel Pilothouse Cutter
Posts: 4,976
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
Have you recovered yet, Newt? I seem to recall you got pretty banged up, enough to preclude sailing.
I don't use AC. I use, in a limited sense, OpenCPN, because I want limited charting and it's very nearly at the "pro" level. I haven't ruled out AC and remain "aware of it", but I have to say that if something that takes years to code, test/QA and update is freely given, getting a email with unsolicited but on topic opinions is really no price to pay at all.
I mean, I get the deal: We beta-test their software and in essence submit a horde of bug reports in return for a free, cleaned-up version. It's crowd-sourcing at its finest, but I'm under no illusions that the ultimate goal is to create a product that can be sold. It seems fair to me.
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22-01-2013, 10:51
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#34
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
Boat: Valiant 40 (1975)
Posts: 4,073
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
Hi Alchemy! Yeah I am sewing and starting to weld again. Can't wait to get on the water. I use AC as a guidebook, and to help plan my next adventure. What do the rest of you use it for?
Of course I consult sail flow, NOAA and my own eyes when the time comes to leave the dock. But it is a great planning /dreaming tool. Esp. when there is two feet of snow outside.
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22-01-2013, 11:42
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#35
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tampa Bay area, USA
Boat: Beneteau First 42
Posts: 3,961
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
Quote:
Originally Posted by s/v Beth
.... I use AC as a guidebook, and to help plan my next adventure. What do the rest of you use it for?
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We use AC whenever we plan/make a trip. While published crusing guides to south Florida have a lot of information it is not always up-to-date and I really prefer reading comments by other folks that have used various anchorages et al in the course of their own trips. The anchorage information is also worth while as to spots that only locals would otherwise know about that do not appear in many/most guide books. We also try to contribute to the extent we can on locations and resources we know about in our own area.
FWIW...
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03-02-2013, 01:35
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#36
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C.L.O.D
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: UK
Boat: Kalik 40
Posts: 8,264
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotemar
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Fixed that for you:
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03-02-2013, 02:41
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#37
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Boat: HR 40
Posts: 3,651
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
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Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
I have no first hand knowledge of AC - but I have an opinion nonetheless!
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You're certainly welcome to your opinion, but you are missing out. ActiveCaptain (AC) is making a real push to present data globally. That means people need to post markers and reviews. That was the genesis of the partnership between AC and the Seven Seas Cruising Association (SSCA). Our cruising members worldwide are asked to start populating the database beyond US shores.
So go ahead and look around. Check somewhere like Chesapeake Bay or the Bahamas to see the potential and then start filling in information for places you know about. Some cruisers are more likely to add to an existing marker than create one of their own, so every one you add is a real contribution to the cruising community.
Besides you get points for markers and reviews. You get enough points and they send you a free hat. Most of what AC does is ashore: servers and all that. Not the hats. The hats are bagged and boxed under the v-berth on aCappella and Jeff and Karen post each one themselves. I know they will be thrilled to ship a hat to a contributor outside the US. I'm not sure they have yet. I'll ask.
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Originally Posted by S/V Alchemy
I mean, I get the deal: We beta-test their software and in essence submit a horde of bug reports in return for a free, cleaned-up version. It's crowd-sourcing at its finest, but I'm under no illusions that the ultimate goal is to create a product that can be sold. It seems fair to me.
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Jeff & Karen's model is different. They unquestionably see the boater and cruiser as their customer. They have come up with a way for marinas and marine industries to provide a revenue stream without reducing the value proposition to their cruising customers. It's brilliant. I wish I had that idea.
Disclaimer 1: Jeff and Karen have become friends as a result of AC.
Disclaimer 2: I am currently SSCA President.
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03-02-2013, 11:46
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#38
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
Boat: Valiant 40 (1975)
Posts: 4,073
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
Wow, I didn't know we had the SSCA infiltrating our ranks. I would have joined a long time ago, but it cost $$. I guess there is some value in the cheap seats....
Now about those used charts that are for trade
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03-02-2013, 12:01
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#39
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Boat: HR 40
Posts: 3,651
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
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Originally Posted by s/v Beth
Wow, I didn't know we had the SSCA infiltrating our ranks. I would have joined a long time ago, but it cost $$. I guess there is some value in the cheap seats....
Now about those used charts that are for trade
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Infiltrated? INFILTRATED? Wow. I've been here a long time. My membership and activity at SSCA simply hasn't been relevant before.
I'm just a cruiser like most others here. SSCA members are cruisers - that's what we are for.
$$? $55/year. If we don't add value to your cruising don't join. Regardless, tell me why you don't think we, as an organization, don't provide that much value. I'd really like to know.
We're off topic here, so PM me an e-mail address and I'll be more than happy to correspond with you.
regards, dave
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03-02-2013, 12:35
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#40
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: On the boat
Boat: Westerly Centaur. 26'
Posts: 500
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
If you havent used AC, I think you're missing out. Arguing over a free site, isnt that the proverbial looking a gift gift horse in the mouth? Still waiting for Will and Jeff to do whatever it is thats got to be done to get AC integrated into MXMariner...
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04-02-2013, 04:49
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#41
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Depends
Boat: Cabo Rico
Posts: 771
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auspicious
$$? $55/year. If we don't add value to your cruising don't join. Regardless, tell me why you don't think we, as an organization, don't provide that much value. I'd really like to know.
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SSCA is a fabulous organization - a cruisers best friend. I think I'll start an SSCA thread so we don't walk on this one.
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04-02-2013, 09:24
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#42
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tampa Bay area, USA
Boat: Beneteau First 42
Posts: 3,961
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
Quote:
Originally Posted by s/v Beth
Wow, I didn't know we had the SSCA infiltrating our ranks. I would have joined a long time ago, but it cost $$. I guess there is some value in the cheap seats....
Now about those used charts that are for trade
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Membership fee, $55/annum. BS Coefficient of Zero on the web site, Priceless!!!
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04-02-2013, 09:37
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#43
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Englewood, Ohio/Oak Harbor, Wa
Boat: catalina 27 & Windrose 20 Hunter 34
Posts: 206
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
Wow de dow!! what was it Shakespeare said?:"Much ado about nothing." or somethin' like it. We still love you tree!
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04-02-2013, 09:58
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#44
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Boat: HR 40
Posts: 3,651
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
Quote:
Originally Posted by PamlicoTraveler
SSCA is a fabulous organization - a cruisers best friend. I think I'll start an SSCA thread so we don't walk on this one.
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That's nice to hear.
I haven't seen an SSCA thread and I feel a little awkward about starting one myself.
SSCA has an educational program called Seven Seas U ( Seven Seas U ) that produces webinars. There is a FREE one tomorrow night, Tue 5 Feb at 8.00 pm US ET, on getting the most from SSCA membership. If time zones or other commitments preclude attendance you can register and get a recording.
Mods - let me know if this is okay to post about.
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04-02-2013, 11:12
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#45
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
Boat: Valiant 40 (1975)
Posts: 4,073
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Re: Active Captain Preaching?
Dave- I apologize if I have offended you or any other SCCA members. The real reason I have not joined is I have not left the dock completely. Alas, I will not be Tuesday till late. Still making freedom chips...
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