Originally Posted by barnakiel
There is no proof this works. Contrary to what some may think, one cannot give governments to areas that apparently do not need or want one. Somalia, like any other African place, is an aftertaste of European presence. There was no Somalia before the colonies, and there is no such thing as Somalia today - it is all a bunch of tribes/families each pulling their way.
Obviously writing a cheque and sending some wishful thinking isn't a magic instant solution - but gotta start somewhere!
Every tribe needs and wants rules (or they cease to exist) - they just don't always want the same rules that work
. As you state, in the case of Somali no local call for a nation called Somalia.....but that same for most of Africa
- loads of borders of nation states which the locals never fought for (The DRC? WTF is that about?!
- apart from being designed and continued as a great
way to loot an area of natural resources).
Not to say I know a better solution. Better try, fail, adjust and try again than sit and do nothing saying nothing can be done.(?) Piracy there is an issue and I am very glad someone is trying to do something.
There has always been an easy
answer - and that is dividing Somalia up into bite sized chunks (3 or 4 states).....but the principle of doing that to a nation state has always been resisted by "us" for fear of encouraging same happening locally. Instead we persist with the fiction of nations like Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi, USA
, DRC and Somali (and most of Africa!)....and pay the price
in cash and blood accordingly (on the upside "we" usually get cheap
). The only abberation was Yugoslavia, and that because da sh#t was on our doorstep - and they had no oil
. nor much else that could be loaded onto trucks or ships.
In Somalia, Somaliland has been trying to get independence for years (and is pretty much a functioning state). Puntland just needs a good nudge
....the rest? well, give 'em Islam
....and wait for evolution!
Would it not be better for everybody if the area called Somalia got annexed by some well governed state existing nearby? Saudi Arabia perhaps?
"We" have been fighting in Somali (mostly by proxy) to prevent exactly that!, not from a formal annexation but from the shared ideology (the mental end of Islam)......personally I am all in favour of Islamic Sharia based Government - as long as I don't live there
. Some places are simply not civilised enough to cope with the rule
of law, and religous law is better than none. and cheaper too (usually only need a few blokes with beards making **** up as they go along). Worked in Europe
with Christianity until we got civilised ("when I was a child I beleived in childish things"
). Other parts
of the west (
) still working on ditching the woo as a form of government (and backer of their currecny?