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Old 14-03-2015, 09:33   #91
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Re: What priorities do you have for staying safe

Good lifelines around the boat.

A preventer on the boom thats easy to use.

A stable dingy.

Rig the boat so you can sail it from the cockpit.

Reef down and slow the boat down at night if you single hand.

Be paranoid about hull integrity and crocodiles.
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Old 30-03-2015, 16:18   #92
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Re: What priorities do you have for staying safe

Avoiding areas with other sailboats is very high on my list because I am in typhoon prone area. One packing 170 knot winds is headed my way now.

In this same month
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'cyclone- proof ' moorings in Port Vila were wrecked with loss of life. Looking at photos you can see damages caused by one sailboat hitting another.

Access to a big open sea in a typhoon and 24 hour watch is important to me.

Yes typhoons can bring down the mast, but that is usually just top deck damages.
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Old 31-03-2015, 03:09   #93
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Re: What priorities do you have for staying safe

Your one tuff cookie

When I first got my boat and planning on sailing it to my home state an elderly mariner gave me one piece of advice. If the weather turns bad and you can't get into port, head out to sea. I took that advice on the trip down. It sort of goes against the grain to do that as the minds natura instinct is to head to land.
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Your one tuff cookie

When I first got my boat and planning on sailing it to my home state an elderly mariner gave me one piece of advice. If the weather turns bad and you can't get into port, head out to sea. I took that advice on the trip down. It sort of goes against the grain to do that as the minds natura instinct is to head to land.
RC, once you've experienced a few times that you really are safer at sea away from the hard bits, that sense of land being safer is likely to fade somewhat. It's getting there that's dangerous. Those guys in the boat lost off Cuba would probably have been okay if they had gone to sea and reached deeper water---a sad loss of vessel.

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RC, once you've experienced a few times that you really are safer at sea away from the hard bits, that sense of land being safer is likely to fade somewhat. It's getting there that's dangerous. Those guys in the boat lost off Cuba would probably have been okay if they had gone to sea and reached deeper water---a sad loss of vessel.

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Yep, three years down the track and the feeling is gone.
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Your one tuff cookie

When I first got my boat and planning on sailing it to my home state an elderly mariner gave me one piece of advice. If the weather turns bad and you can't get into port, head out to sea. I took that advice on the trip down. It sort of goes against the grain to do that as the minds natura instinct is to head to land.
Yep, I think the old axiom is correct:

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Re: What priorities do you have for staying safe

A safe attitude. I have my cat with all sorts of gear, but it isn't the gear that matters. For example:

Kayaking. I do have a PFD, though I probably don't wear it. What does keep me safe is...
  • Knowing my limits, both weather and distance.
  • Dress for the water temperature or stay ashore.
  • Have the skill set you need. For kayakers this includes self-rescue.
  • And most of all, retreat when it doesn't feel right.
Float plan? I'll most likely be dead long before that matters. It'll just give them something to bury.


Whistle? If they can hear me, I can swim there.


Blah, blah, blah. It is sea sense that keeps me out of trouble on the sailboat. I've never, in 30 years, needed any bit of safety gear anyone listed (not counting maps, which I see more as a part of the boat than safety gear). If I can't handle the conditions, I stay home, and once I'm out, I focus on what I'm doing.


Climbing. I have rock climbed for 35 years. I've helped pick up 5 broken bodies, 4 of which were wearing helmets... yet less than 20% of climbers wear helmets. My postulate, right or wrong, is that many people think safety gear makes them bullet proof. It does not. All a helmet does, if you fall far, is keep the brains together.

I do use the safety gear. But I recognize that paying attention is key.
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Old 04-04-2015, 21:23   #98
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A safe attitude. I have my cat with all sorts of gear, but it isn't the gear that matters. For example:

Kayaking. I do have a PFD, though I probably don't wear it. What does keep me safe is...
  • Knowing my limits, both weather and distance.
  • Dress for the water temperature or stay ashore.
  • Have the skill set you need. For kayakers this includes self-rescue.
  • And most of all, retreat when it doesn't feel right.
Float plan? I'll most likely be dead long before that matters. It'll just give them something to bury.


Whistle? If they can hear me, I can swim there.


Blah, blah, blah. It is sea sense that keeps me out of trouble on the sailboat. I've never, in 30 years, needed any bit of safety gear anyone listed (not counting maps, which I see more as a part of the boat than safety gear). If I can't handle the conditions, I stay home, and once I'm out, I focus on what I'm doing.


Climbing. I have rock climbed for 35 years. I've helped pick up 5 broken bodies, 4 of which were wearing helmets... yet less than 20% of climbers wear helmets. My postulate, right or wrong, is that many people think safety gear makes them bullet proof. It does not. All a helmet does, if you fall far, is keep the brains together.

I do use the safety gear. But I recognize that paying attention is key.
I think your 'safety list' is what gets people in trouble. But thanks anyway.
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Good lifelines around the boat... A preventer on the boom thats easy to use... Be paranoid about hull integrity and crocodiles.
Crocodiles ? How about paranoid about mermaids ?
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