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29-02-2016, 15:04
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#136
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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Originally Posted by Cadence
Why the hell is it a discussion? If a 78 year old puts his boat on the rocks and offs himself, that is his choice. I see no point in at the second guessing?
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READ THE OP!
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29-02-2016, 15:10
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#137
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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Originally Posted by reed1v
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THat's the same link I suggested to you in post 110  and the post itself dispels your claim he was a whale
Dude, come clean, what's your age and your real profession?
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29-02-2016, 15:30
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#138
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
Posts: 10,210
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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Originally Posted by Rustic Charm
READ THE OP!
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I did look at the OP? Seems like a bunch of speculation past that?
To what end?
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29-02-2016, 16:07
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#139
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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Originally Posted by Cadence
I did look at the OP? Seems like a bunch of speculation past that?
To what end?
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I probably shouldn't have used the 'illustration' I used. It was simply current and led me to asking the question. My motivation was in seeking personal experiences of solo sailors and their emotional/psychological struggles whilst solo sailing.
My future has a lot of solo sailing in it I suspect.
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29-02-2016, 16:18
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#140
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S/V rubber ducky
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bahamas cruising currently
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 19,395
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
Are any of you embarrassed yet? You should be.
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29-02-2016, 16:19
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#141
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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Originally Posted by sailorboy1
Are any of you embarrassed yet? You should be.
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Embarrassed about what?
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29-02-2016, 19:23
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#142
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Location: Straits of Juan De Fuca
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Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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Originally Posted by Capt Phil
It is without doubt, the most screwed up and silly system of healthcare every designed! Too expensive, too complicated and has doctors all over the country leaving it in droves! My personal Dr has closed his practice after 30+ years because of the unreasonable and onerous rules for reimbursement reporting. He can make more $ as a construction worker which is what he does now! Thanks for f***ing up a perfectly good system Obama... This is your legacy. Phil
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It's getting pretty deep around here, and since no one else is gonna call BS on this comment, I will. Everyone else is busy calling BS on other deep piles, I got this!
I own a construction company. We build high end custom homes using high skilled craftsmen (for the most part). I was also at the doctors office here in the US for the first time in 20+ years this week. Medical tourism has been my modus operandi for decades now. I feel qualified to say pppppplllllttttttttt to you sir.
The doctor that saw me (how the hell do teenagers become doctors? I dunno) told me that everyone he knows in the profession, see the "AFFORDABLE CARE ACT" (I know you want to be accurate, huh?) as a start to bringing healthcare to our unwashed masses you ..........uuummmm......sailor you!
I've never met a doctor (or very many of ANY professional) that wanted to step into the realm of physical labor. So basically, unless you can prove that any of what you said is more than BS, show me...........
And what "perfectly good system" were you referring to btw that has been sooooo f***ed up. Do tell.......please........
On edit: You used this thread as a thinly disguised way of going off on a political rant, an asinine one at best.....shame on you, now go sit in the corner.
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29-02-2016, 19:59
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#143
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Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Florida/Alberta
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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Originally Posted by reed1v
Which is why no one over 60 should be allowed to sail alone, let alone drive a car. Just too old for that sort of stuff.
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So, I should stop cross country skiing in Birkies or ride by bicycle for 16K a day also? Or stop doing laps in the pool at night?
What about going hunting in the mountains? Too old for that also? By myself or with my son?
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01-03-2016, 01:43
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#144
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cruiser
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Probably in an anchorage or a boatyard..
Boat: Ebbtide 33' steel cutter
Posts: 5,031
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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Originally Posted by Rustic Charm
...... to asking the question. My motivation was in seeking personal experiences of solo sailors and their emotional/psychological struggles whilst solo sailing.
My future has a lot of solo sailing in it I suspect.
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Back on topic.... no struggles whatsoever. Actually, I feel a bit left out never having had any hallucinations or hearing any voices. Well, apart from once when the short wave radion turned itself on somehow, it did seem odd at the time. hearing a murmor of what sounded like cricket commentary from BBC world service.
Otherwise largely positive. Longest time alone so far has been 32 days Carib-Azores. The "dreading landfall" has happened, after a few days it's so serene out there that going back on land just seems far too ... busy! But that's just silly, you can't stay out there forever so best to ignore that one
One effect I found was extremely subtle, barely perceptible but did seem to bubble under the surface. Because we all make up this image of ourselves in our heads then the mind tries to bolster this idea of self among others, with nobody else around there's nobody to have to strengthen this idea of an independent "me" for. So I experienced a very slight erosion of the sense of an independent "the big me!". Hard to explain, and probably meditating a lot and reading buddhist philosophy at the time had a lot to do with it as well. But a nice feeling, useful to back off a bit from ego decisions and react more objectively.
Some fantastic memories, swimming in 4Km deep water looking at the boat with some shearwaters letting me stoke them, watching a plane contrail for ages as it was the first straight line seen off the boat for weeks.
Good job the brain doesn't remember to bad bits very well. 
Ah, another point, your memory is really not very good, I've a few memories which I would swear are exact but don't match the log.
Can't wait to get back out there again.
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01-03-2016, 01:51
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#145
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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Originally Posted by avb3
So, I should stop cross country skiing in Birkies or ride by bicycle for 16K a day also? Or stop doing laps in the pool at night?
What about going hunting in the mountains? Too old for that also? By myself or with my son?
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No no no  that's all ok. But you have to catch a bus to the pool and the ski field because you dude are way too old to be sailing or driving a car
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01-03-2016, 01:54
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#146
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Sussex UK
Boat: Unique 1400 14M
Posts: 85
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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01-03-2016, 01:55
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#147
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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Originally Posted by conachair
Back on topic.... no struggles whatsoever. Actually, I feel a bit left out never having had any hallucinations or hearing any voices. Well, apart from once when the short wave radion turned itself on somehow, it did seem odd at the time. hearing a murmor of what sounded like cricket commentary from BBC world service.
Otherwise largely positive. Longest time alone so far has been 32 days Carib-Azores. The "dreading landfall" has happened, after a few days it's so serene out there that going back on land just seems far too ... busy! But that's just silly, you can't stay out there forever so best to ignore that one
One effect I found was extremely subtle, barely perceptible but did seem to bubble under the surface. Because we all make up this image of ourselves in our heads then the mind tries to bolster this idea of self among others, with nobody else around there's nobody to have to strengthen this idea of an independent "me" for. So I experienced a very slight erosion of the sense of an independent "the big me!". Hard to explain, and probably meditating a lot and reading buddhist philosophy at the time had a lot to do with it as well. But a nice feeling, useful to back off a bit from ego decisions and react more objectively.
Some fantastic memories, swimming in 4Km deep water looking at the boat with some shearwaters letting me stoke them, watching a plane contrail for ages as it was the first straight line seen off the boat for weeks.
Good job the brain doesn't remember to bad bits very well. 
Ah, another point, your memory is really not very good, I've a few memories which I would swear are exact but don't match the log.
Can't wait to get back out there again. 
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Thank you  very interesting reading. That's whats i wanted.
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01-03-2016, 02:15
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#148
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Registered User
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Location: Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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01-03-2016, 03:20
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#149
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Baltic Sea / Kiel Canal
Posts: 293
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Re: Solo Sailor Took His Own Life
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Originally Posted by reed1v
that is so politically incorrect. You are suppose to help support the health care system and your Government by delaying the inevitable by all means possible. After all, who owns your body?
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I take care of my wife for many years and I don't want that someone must do this work on me. We sponsor the health system for nearly half a century and my experiences with the system are rather poor.
Fortunately we have in Germany the notarized advance directive, so that everyone can decide how to proceed in the particular case.
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