I second David Old Jersey, always good to read varied opinions and after reading some of them I am grateful I was born and raised in a third world country (college educated in a first world country though) where we have less walmart's and walgreens flooding people's mind with the need of consumption paramount reason for early stages of mass violence development in entire societies.
This thread has got just about everything going for it but "boating". I understand the point Dave was trying to make when he started it, but I think it's run aground at this point, and doesn't have Unlimited Towing insurance to get it back off the reef. I'm going to scuttle it.