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09-07-2009, 18:20
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,820
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Security Screen for Companionway
Hi Folks 
Just wanted to tell you a solution to security problems.
We have a companion way thats not square, its 600mm at the top and 500mm at the bottom and curves at the base too.
Most screen door makers will only do square/rectangular.
But we found a smaller company to do it.
The screen is reinforced and many pop rivets added to the surround.
And the air still circulates!!!!!!
Just thought it might help you with security ideas.
Mark
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09-07-2009, 18:24
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CF Adviser
Moderator Emeritus
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Location: Montrose, Colorado
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Hey, that companionway-screen-elf looks just like . . . could it be . . . nah, it's just too hard to tell when the elf is wearing clothes! 
TaoJones
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09-07-2009, 18:26
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Boat: Research vessel for a university, retired now.
Posts: 10,405
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What security?
It looks to me like she has already figured out how to escape.
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David
Life begins where land ends.
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09-07-2009, 18:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Princeton, NJ
Boat: Challenger Anacapa 42
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Man do you have a cute elf! Mark, exactly how big ARE the flys in your neck of the woods? Good God thats a large mesh! 
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09-07-2009, 18:29
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,820
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David M
What security?
It looks to me like she has already figured out how to escape. |
ROTFL You're funny, David in fact everyone is
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10-07-2009, 06:37
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Christian Van H
Mark, exactly how big ARE the flys in your neck of the woods?
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Looks great, except as noted above.
How do you secure (lock?) it in place?
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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10-07-2009, 06:48
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Moderator and Certifiable Refitter
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South of 43 S, Australia
Boat: C.L.O.D.
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I think I can safely answer for Mark, that is just a standard size screen for Darwin flies .
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10-07-2009, 08:20
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
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Yes, I built one of stainless with small bars. Felt a little like a prison, but on a few occasions I did sleep better knowing it was there!
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10-07-2009, 11:10
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: We're technically refugees from our home in Yemen now living in Lebenon
Boat: 1978 CT48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TaoJones
Hey, that companionway-screen-elf looks just like . . . could it be . . . nah, it's just too hard to tell when the elf is wearing clothes!
TaoJones |
Diddo TaoJones...I'm still studying the Shower Thread "science"
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S/V Arctic Lady
I love my boat, I can't afford not to!
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10-07-2009, 15:28
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay
How do you secure (lock?) it in place?
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Padlocks to the standard thru-bolt on the top sliding hatch, but on the inside obviously.
Also just inside we have our new battery operated alarm with sensor pointing out the doorway and the alarm unit visible too.
This means that if someone comes near the door they will see the green light on the sensor. Then hear the siren and then see the big red flashing strobe through the security grill.
The idea is to change the thought pattern of the intruder. Instead of them being task orientated about their job, suddenly they are thinking about their own self, and seeing the bars, will retreat.
If its just the screen alone they may settle down to work out how to breach / bypass it.
Its only going to be used when we are onboard. The main hatch is stronger for when we are off.
" The DA200 is a DIY wireless remote controlled security system. The kit contains: external control panel, siren, movement activated sensor, portable On/Off alarm remote control unit. Sensor detects motion within an 8m radius and has a scan angle of 1200. 12 month guarantee. Additional components/accessories available."
Arlec - Products
Available at Bunnings for the Aussies for about $70
I just think that the real road to security for international traveling boats is 'passive'. And not over the top. We don't want to live behind bars like we did in Sydney, but at the same time I don't want Nicolle to feel unsafe.
If one hits an intruder with an oar and kills him then we could be in a Thai/Indon (etc) jail for 6 months clearing our name. I am 50 in a month and don't need the hassle.
Mark
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10-07-2009, 16:52
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Olympia, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ
" The DA200 is a DIY wireless remote controlled security system. The kit contains: external control panel, siren, movement activated sensor, portable On/Off alarm remote control unit. Sensor detects motion within an 8m radius and has a scan angle of 1200. 12 month guarantee. Additional components/accessories available." |
Do you get false positives from birds / swinging lines / boat motion / wakes / light changes?
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10-07-2009, 18:38
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Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ
If one hits an intruder with an oar and kills him then we could be in a Thai/Indon (etc) jail for 6 months clearing our name. I am 50 in a month and don't need the hassle.
Mark
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I have given this situation some thought in the past, killing an intruder. If it happened to me I would immediatley leave with the body and give it a burial at sea. and never return to that port. Thats if nobody else saw what happened. I know it sounds bad but I wouldn't want to take any chances with my freedom while defending myself against a pirate. Hopefully I will never be in that situation.
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10-07-2009, 18:44
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Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arch Stanton
Do you get false positives from birds / swinging lines / boat motion / wakes / light changes? |
Arch,
I just saw your post and name. Is that your real name? I believe Arch Staton was the name on the grave where the gold was buried in The Good, The Bad,& The Ugly. One of my all time favorite movies. Sorry to get of topic.
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10-07-2009, 18:52
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,820
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arch Stanton
Do you get false positives from birds / swinging lines / boat motion / wakes / light changes?
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No. Not yet, but its still in the testing phase.
I don't know if we should test it while we are sleeping or wait till we leave the boat for the day. Testing while we are sleeping could create a mass of grey hair when it goes off! Its 120dB!! 
It is positioned to look level into the cockpit so it doesnt see the waves/water. It doesn't get set off by the flag. Its set back in the companionway a bit so that has a unnel effect. I think the object needs to be quite in front of the companionway for it to go off.
It works THROUGH the screen and its flywire so that must also knock down its range a bit.
Mark
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10-07-2009, 19:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: caribbean winter, Durango,CO summer
Boat: Nordhavn 5740
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My wife just told me we are NOT cruising where we have to lock ourselves in at night!
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