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Old 09-12-2008, 14:53   #1
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Medical Insurance

I cannot imagine this has not come up before but I cannot find anything with a search.

What are the options for medical coverage while cruising.

I am with Kaiser and they are not keen on covering me while I trundle around the world and even if I tell them I will only be crusing within a 100 miles of a Kaiser hospital it will cost me 1300 a month. What really hurts is I work for them. Any suggestions anyone?

Does anyone in canada know how long one has to be resident to qualify for health coverage?

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Check this link out: International Health InsuranceÂ*-Â*Buy your insurance online Note: it is expensive.
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Old 09-12-2008, 18:00   #3
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also checkout Medex (there are competitors too) which is medical evacuation insurance - that is, if you are sick and need to get to a "real" hospital they will send a plane and bring you to, eg. Miami if you are in the islands. It isnt very expensive and works quite well - I know people who have used it. It isnt medical insurance per se, but can get you back to where your regular medical insurance will work if you need it.
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Shawn,

Try searching "Medical Insurance" and "Health Insurance" using the Google search feature in the "Search" pull-down menu in the blue bar up top. There's a ton of info to be had in previous threads on the topic.
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Before you buy evacuation insurance make sure it is actually feasible where you are cruising. Most of the time you want to be evacuated it will be an emergency and you won't be able to wait for them to send a plane. Instead you will probably have to charter a plane and it would make more sense to find an insurance that would cover those expenses or include them in your deductible.
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Try BUPA...they also have Medivac ...I used it...it was great.
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Thanks everyone for your input. I tried to contact international health insurance as recomended by easterly-30. They "don't except in exceptional circumstances cover US or Canadian residents" They have also declined to answer my email for whatever reason. The problem of medical evacuation insurance is that my current provider and employer - Kaiser won't cover extended trips outside of it's coverage area so I need to find local insurance to make medical evacuation feasible.
As far as searches go I searched all the treads using medical insurance, health insurance and other combinations thereof. I found a great deal relating to boat insurance but not health but I will try again using the google search.
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Avoid Travel Underwriters , Worldwide Mediclaim, at all costs. When I made a claim with them they refused to pay, as I didn't have a credit card for them to put my expenses on, to force me to go to court for reimbursement. Their first priority appeared to be to find a way to weasel out of paying . I've met others with similar problems with them.
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Does anyone in canada know how long one has to be resident to qualify for health coverage?

The problem is you have to STAY resident. Dunno how long you have to be here to be eligible for coverage (I was born here, so it somehow never came up).

But if you live outside the country for more than (I think) six months, it lapses, although there may be special circumstances in which you can get an extension. (Diplomats, for instance.)

Snowbirds and other expats often make a trek home for a while once or twice a year.

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You can find excellent health maintenance outside the US for American cash for much less than the cost of insurance. $1300 per month will buy a lot of medical care. That is $14,700 per year. How sick are you?
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Take a look here for some options:
https://www.imglobal.com/travelinsur...fm?IMGAC=20258
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Jentine,
the kicker is I'm not sick at all. We are the kind of people that make it possible for insurance companies to pay their CEO's millions of dollars. I just am not comfortable without some catastrophic coverage. Being in the biz I get to see people who get in a car accident or something similar and are wiped out.
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I'm a Canadian although I have been down here in california for about 8 years. My family is still in Canada so I could conceivably go back to the motherland altough in a wierd twist of fate I probably can't work there.
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I took a look at that web site. It seems they would probably make the grade. Do you have any experience with the company or know anyone who has?
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Shawn, where do you plan on cruising? If in the Gulf of Mexico, the Caribbean or South or Central America, you will likely be within shuttle flight distance of places where health care is extremely reasonable. There are numerous people who have purchased, at considerable cost, coverage and have found that their deductibles exceed the cost of health care in some Caribbean countries. Cuba, for one (although if you plan on returning to the US, you would be banned from using their health care; but also Grenada (which has the medical school of the University of the West Indies and an up to date teaching hospital) and Venezuela come to mind.

Venezuela has both public and private hospitals and even at the latter, costs are incredibly low. A friend of mine and his wife had a motorcycle accident on Margarita Island 5 years ago and had to be transported by ambulance to the hospital. Both were x-ray'd, he was treated with a neck brace and pain killers. She, unfortunately had fractured vertebrae. An MRI was taken and she was transported to an orthopedic hospital where surgery was performed. She was stabilized for a few days and then she was able to fly back to Canada. A Canadian Orthopedic Surgeon who reviewed the surgery said that they had done an excellent job; she recovered fully. The total cost, including ambulance for both? $500.00USD.

There have been numerous articles in the last couple of years in Cruising World etc. which give more current and similar examples; one sailor had received a deep wound that became seriously infected. As I recall he attended hospital on a Sunday - the wound was cleaned and samples of the infection taken. Due to the seriousness a specialist was called in on Sunday night. After the cultures were analyzed, it was determined that he had a rare infection that could only be treated by a particular antibiotic. He received an IV boost of the same and was released with a prescription for oral pills to follow up. As I recall, he received change from his $50.00 deposit.

Other examples? As of a year ago, an ultrasound with radiologist report cost under $15.00. I could probably find the cites for the articles (or some of them), but the point is that health care in some places is so inexpensive that, even for a foreigner, that costs are cheaper than any form of health insurance, let alone the insurance plus deductibles. Travelling without heath insurance does pose a risk; that being said, unless you are suddenly struck with a catastrophic injury/condition that does not permit you to travel, even by air, you will always be within range of inexpensive, quality health care if you are cruising in the Caribbean.

With respect to Canadian health insurance coverage out of the country, I know that Ontario's plan (and they vary province by province) has drastically reduced the coverage for people travelling outside of Canada. Even Canadians are now advised to purchase additional coverage when travelling abroad.

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I took a look at that web site. It seems they would probably make the grade. Do you have any experience with the company or know anyone who has?
Thx sk
No experience yet. I've been looking around and these guys seem to be reasonable. The IMIS insurance broker is also well thought of. I will probably try to setup a policy mid next year.

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