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09-08-2012, 09:18
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EPIRB Proves Its Worth in Sudden Capsize of Catamaran
I find it more noteworthy that it was a sudden capsize. If it was news everytime a mono capsized they would need thier own cable channel.
http://www.sail-world.com/Cruising/i...rescued/100572
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09-08-2012, 09:56
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Re: EPIRB Proves Its Worth in Sudden Capsize of Catamaran
i'd like to know more about the capsize....as an aspiring multi-huller. ssssh don't let my current mono know.
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09-08-2012, 15:59
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Re: EPIRB Proves Its Worth in Sudden Capsize of Catamaran
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Originally Posted by foolishsailor
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I guess that it depends o n what you mean by "capsize". If you really mean "knockdown followed by self righting", then yep, it does happen to lots of monohull boats, especially when racing. If you mean " total inversion and no recovery" (al la this multihull) then it isn't all that common. In fact, it tends to get lots of publicity when it does happen... just like when a multi flips. Only real difference is that it is a different bunch of folks saying "I told you so!".
So, I guess I won't be subscribing to that cable channel yet, FS!
And FWIW, while I am a long term monohull sailor, I have no problems with the seaworthyness of cruising multis, and if I owned one, would not worry about capsizing.
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10-08-2012, 01:04
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Wouldnt a full inversion be called "turning turtle"? But i get your point. And the only monos that have the capacity to stay inverted are usually the offahore racers with the wide planing rears. And you are right again about that type of event making news.
This however was a cruising boat, manned by four out for a sail.
Im not trying to start another mono/multi thread, even though i was messing a bit. I was hoping someone would have more info on what happened, like the conditions they were in etc. the article is sparse on details...
I am a mono owner but have always enjoyed sailing big cats, just want more details.
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10-08-2012, 01:06
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Re: EPIRB Proves Its Worth in Sudden Capsize of Catamaran
See, multihulls aren't safe for real sailing.
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10-08-2012, 01:08
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Re: EPIRB Proves Its Worth in Sudden Capsize of Catamaran
Four miles offshore and flipped a 52 boat over. Nice.
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We got paged at around 9.30pm and located the upturned vessel about four miles north of the station.
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10-08-2012, 01:21
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Thats it i am selling my cat, they just are way too dangerous
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10-08-2012, 02:18
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Re: EPIRB Proves Its Worth in Sudden Capsize of Catamaran
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Originally Posted by dirkdig
Thats it i am selling my cat, they just are way too dangerous
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I hope you find a nice fam. to take care of your cat,
is it only one cat or do you have a hole fam. of cats ?
And what type of cat is it ?
and sail safe.
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10-08-2012, 02:36
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How many survivors would there've if it were a mono that got knocked down and rolled with all its hatches and doors open from a huge squall? Oh wait that's right. It would've just had the decency to sink and not be a hazard to navigation,,, or a floating life raft.
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10-08-2012, 02:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by careka
I hope you find a nice fam. to take care of your cat,
is it only one cat or do you have a hole fam. of cats ?
And what type of cat is it ?
and sail safe.
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I have a 16 year old tabby cat on the farm and a 6 year old one in the marina.
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10-08-2012, 03:12
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Re: EPIRB Proves Its Worth in Sudden Capsize of Catamaran
now if they made catamarans so they could float either way up and had masts and rudders that swiveled.....................
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10-08-2012, 03:42
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Re: EPIRB Proves Its Worth in Sudden Capsize of Catamaran
It must have been some wind to flip a 52 foot cat. And they must have been showing quite bit of sail.
Sudden squall? No warning at all. Just appeared out of the blue. No clouds, no gusts, nothing?
A cautious opinion - methinks perhaps the skipper and crew of this boat were not keeping a good lookout?
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10-08-2012, 03:50
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Re: EPIRB Proves Its Worth in Sudden Capsize of Catamaran
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Originally Posted by atoll
now if they made catamarans so they could float either way up and had masts and rudders that swiveled.....................
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Hmmmm. Now you got me thinking Atoll! F the catamarans! F the monohulls! Submarines seem like the way to go! Cruise on the surface in good weather and dive under the bad stuff. I've already got my electric propulsion system now it's just a matter of sealing the hatches and working out the ballast.
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10-08-2012, 04:33
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Re: EPIRB Proves Its Worth in Sudden Capsize of Catamaran
My mono is so loaded down with gear on my cruises with the wife it goes under most the waves already! I think of the water the comes in from above as our impromptu shower! Or a good chance to mop the floors and sweeten the grimy bilge!
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10-08-2012, 05:58
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Re: EPIRB Proves Its Worth in Sudden Capsize of Catamaran
vidio link of rescue
oh yea "only 4 miles out to sea" and "methinks perhaps the skipper and crew of this boat were not keeping a good lookout?" Me thinks gulf stream meets atlantic and the boat sailed out from the protection of the island!
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