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28-03-2016, 18:38
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RaymondR
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
I used to until I saw this on the front page of the Territorian.
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28-03-2016, 18:48
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Nicholson58
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
Does the bear whiz in the woods? I set the
autopilot
and clip on. As a note on this, Pee is sterile. The Colorado river guides prefer clients use the river. Dilution is billions to one.
28-03-2016, 19:56
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Orion Jim
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
Not in many years. Too dangerous. Not to mention I'm too old to play foolish games when there exist a plethora of safe means of relieving oneself.
28-03-2016, 20:11
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captlloyd
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Ann T. Cate
Okay, I'll lighten up enough to explain: The mental image I got from the picture you posted, along with your written comment was that of urine and fecal matter drenching the figurehead, which represents womenkind. That was why I was snarky. If yours was an innocent
posting
, i apologize.
Ann
Actually, as I am sure you know, that is why a
head
is called a
head
. Some on this forum may not know, but in the olden sailing days, due to the shape of a
boat
, the figurehead area of a
boat
was the most practical place to do your business. No offense intended, just a fact.
28-03-2016, 20:25
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Silverbeard
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
Algae blooms are not caused by pee but by high nitrogen fertilizer run off from industrial farming operations all along the shores of the lakes and rivers...
Algae blooms are caused by phosphorus, not nitrogen. Phosphorus is used in fertilizers used for growing crops and on lawns (think urban runoff). Human waste, both #1 and #2, contains phosphorus. It also occurs naturally is soils.
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28-03-2016, 20:35
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JPA Cate
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
URINE IS ONLY STERILE WHEN ONE HAS NO URINARY TRACT INFECTION. In the early stages, one could easily have bacteria in the urine, and never know it.
When you give a urine sample when they are trying to find out what's wrong with you, first, they do a white blood cell count, as an elevated count indicates infection is present. They keep some of the sample, and culture it, and let it grow. It can take about 18 hrs. for them to find out which bacteria are in there.
Anyhow, usually urine is sterile; just not always.
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28-03-2016, 20:54
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jamestholtzinge
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
I agree with Snort, best control over the shoulder, doesn't matter how cold the
water
is.
28-03-2016, 22:57
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Jim Cate
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
captlloyd
Actually, as I am sure you know, that is why a head is called a head. Some on this forum may not know, but in the olden sailing days, due to the shape of a boat, the figurehead area of a boat was the most practical place to do your business. No offense intended, just a fact.
Do remember that those vessels didn't typically sail upwind. I they did, perhaps the heads would have alternative spots in the "sterns"! Pooping to windward could spoil your whole day...
Jim
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28-03-2016, 23:05
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crazyoldboatguy
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Jim Cate
Do remember that those vessels didn't typically sail upwind. I they did, perhaps the heads would have alternative spots in the "sterns"! Pooping to windward could spoil your whole day...
Jim
Except for the CO - he wasn't going to traipse all the way to the bows to hang his rear forward of the breakhead. Rather - he used the facility off the side of the captain's quarters. The
wind
coming from the stern might carry the odour forward - but then, why would he care about that?
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29-03-2016, 01:18
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mausgras
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
secrabtree
Something that MAY make a difference to those that don't pee over the side. Urine is sanitary, not like poop. Check with a
medical
person. Pee is preferable to tap
water
in most countries for
washing
out a wound.
That is mostly true, but!
Both urine and faeces from healthy people are heavily populated with a microflora that is harmless and even essential for good body function. Ìn fact, when the natural balance goes wrong doctors now give a faecal transplant to chronic diahorrea suffers.
The problem occures when water is contaminated with faecal material containing bad guys like cholera or chlamydia from sick people. Hence modern hygiene takes a cautious approach and prohibits any contaminating source.
Peeing
overboard
is a miniscule source of pathogens, but there is the principle.
Boats that have holding
tanks
and use disinfectants until they can legally discharge
overboard
probably have a greater impact.
When I pee overboard I just consider I am just adding a bit more to all the pee from trillions of
fish
.
29-03-2016, 02:16
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Dockhead
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
mdvick
This is the majority of
MOB
, that have been recovered, were either without pants or had the zippers down. If you are on my boat, you have a self inflating vest on AND you are clipped in to a LIFELINE when ever you leave the
cabin
...
Another one? Sigh. Even in a dead calm on a sunny day, you make people clip on? In the
cockpit
???
Sure am glad I have my own boat.
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29-03-2016, 03:26
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Nikki S
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
if i could without it running down my legs, then i would
29-03-2016, 06:31
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PuttingDoctor
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
Two ways to approach this issue. First underway I think helping the
fish
at their own
game
is appropriate... you know what they do in the water?
I have a rear arch for my solar/davits so a good grip with one hand is working well for overboard.... BUT you must be wearing a life jacket.
Now to minimize the
holding tank
issues I use a gallon water jug for overnight relief to keep the tank volume to a minimum. I take the jug to the overboard or in a grocery bag to the land based head when I need to.
Remember one hand for the boat, one hand for yourself.
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29-03-2016, 14:41
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StuM
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Re: Do you pee over the side?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Reefmagnet
Whenever possible, anything aboard a
small boat
should perform as many functions as possible. Here I present the
cockpit
toilet
that even the fairer sex can use, if they so choose:
You want multi function urinal? How about doing it like this.
A friend of mine did the 2012 Yukon
Classic
River Quest - longest paddling
race
in the world. (a bunch of old Australian farts who actually won the
race
. Here's Geoff's write up
http://ettybay.com/files/Pages-from-Paddle-Mag.pdf
The relevant bit:
"Most of us had been peeing in our drinking cups during
our 1-minute break (we just rinsed them out afterwards).
...
Caleb had
lost
his drinking cup in the flip and asked to borrow
Grant’s. “You’re not pissing in it are you?” Grant replied loudly.
“No,” said Caleb. “Just drinking.” He borrowed the cup, dipped it
in the river and it slipped out of his hand. Moments passed, then
Caleb said, “Ummm Grant, I hope you weren’t too attached to
your cup…” Grant stopped paddling and turned around. Keith
heard the steam coming out of Grant, so quickly gave him his
cup, saying; “Its OK mate, I haven’t pissed in it. Have mine, I’ll
share with Ralph.” And so we dodged a certain fatality."
29-03-2016, 16:02
#
120
unclemack
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 429
Re: Do you pee over the side?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
StuM
You want multi function urinal? How about doing it like this.
A friend of mine did the 2012 Yukon
Classic
River Quest - longest paddling race in the world. (a bunch of old Australian farts who actually won the race. Here's Geoff's write up
http://ettybay.com/files/Pages-from-Paddle-Mag.pdf
The relevant bit:
"Most of us had been peeing in our drinking cups during
our 1-minute break (we just rinsed them out afterwards).
...
Caleb had
lost
his drinking cup in the flip and asked to borrow
Grant’s. “You’re not pissing in it are you?” Grant replied loudly.
“No,” said Caleb. “Just drinking.” He borrowed the cup, dipped it
in the river and it slipped out of his hand. Moments passed, then
Caleb said, “Ummm Grant, I hope you weren’t too attached to
your cup…” Grant stopped paddling and turned around. Keith
heard the steam coming out of Grant, so quickly gave him his
cup, saying; “Its OK mate, I haven’t pissed in it. Have mine, I’ll
share with Ralph.” And so we dodged a certain fatality."
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