WWV / WWVH Petition

[CommodoreDoug]

Signed with alacrity.

And I don't care if the government spends more than it takes in. The United States is not a business. The job of the government is to look out for the welfare of its citizens. Not turn a profit.

"The world is my country and to do good is my religion"



-Thomas Paine

[CarinaPDX]

Closing down WWV is right in there with the closure - and destruction of broadcast towers - of LORAN. It is a huge mistake as we will have a single point of failure - GPS satellites - which are vulnerable to solar flares as well as hostile acts and accidents. (We should have updated LORAN to eLORAN to provide a secondary, terrestial system.) Without WWV how will we get accurate time for celestial in the event of GPS failure? Going to petition...


Greg

[Jim Cate]

WWV/WWVH are more than time checks. They are frequency standards, wx info, other info, propagation checks and more. I've signed!

Jim

[hpeer]

I signed and wrote to both my senators.

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by ohgary

The article doesn't mention if WWVB is getting cut... Would like to know if that is included in the cut. All the articles I have seen are WWV and WWVH only.

The Navlist folks have been discussing this and the budget still has funding for WWVB as I understand it.

[Imprezza72]

Originally Posted by SSgtPitt

Actually, we should listen to you. There are many old school ways of doing things that should never completely go away; paper charts, pencil and paper, compasses, sextants, dead reckoning, climbing the mast to check for obstructions in the water, keeping a watch, watching the horizon for weather changes. My chartplotter is electronic, I know it will blink out when I need it most, not tied to dock in a marina within walking distance to a chandlery.

You are quite right. The Navy went from a phase out of celestial navigation to teaching it once again.

[trifan]

Originally Posted by hpeer

I signed and wrote to both my senators.

Why them? It is the House that controls the purse.

[trifan]

1494 signed

[CarinaPDX]

Originally Posted by trifan

Why them? It is the House that controls the purse.

Not exactly.

Section 7 of the U.S. Constitution:

"All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives, but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."

Which is to say that Senate approval is still required for the final bill, and they have a role in amending revenue bills. But this is not a revenue raising bill, it would be a bill for authorizing expenditure or possibly a budget bill. So the Senate is a more-or-less equal partner.

Greg

[Capt Gill]

I'm # 1,649 .

[hpeer]

Originally Posted by trifan

Why them? It is the House that controls the purse.

Representatives individually have little control. Senators have a much greater presence with the administration. I want them to know this is a sore topic. And communicate it to the White House budget makers.

[S/V Illusion]

Originally Posted by CarinaPDX

Closing down WWV is right in there with the closure - and destruction of broadcast towers - of LORAN. It is a huge mistake as we will have a single point of failure - GPS satellites - which are vulnerable to solar flares as well as hostile acts and accidents. (We should have updated LORAN to eLORAN to provide a secondary, terrestial system.) Without WWV how will we get accurate time for celestial in the event of GPS failure? Going to petition...


Greg

And WWV transmissions aren't "vulnerable to solar flares and terrorism"?

A better question is why spend millions of dollars for a system which 1. Should be privatized and 2. Serves a benefit to only a handful of people?

Government dependence should be a career goal.

[belizesailor]

Originally Posted by S/V Illusion

And WWV transmissions aren't "vulnerable to solar flares and terrorism"?

A better question is why spend millions of dollars for a system which 1. Should be privatized and 2. Serves a benefit to only a handful of people?

Government dependence should be a career goal.

How would WWV work as a privatized system? How do you make a profit broadcasting a time signal?

[S/V Illusion]

Originally Posted by belizesailor

How would WWV work as a privatized system? How do you make a profit broadcasting a time signal?

Clearly, the claim WWV broadcasts aren't subject to solar flare or other geomagnetic propagation anomalies is disingenuous. In answer to your question, W1AW, which is the callsigns of the ARRL, currently broadcasts on numerous frequencies throughout the day/night and isn't supported by tax revenue. There are multiple other alternatives equally or arguably more effective.

[belizesailor]

Originally Posted by belizesailor

How would WWV work as a privatized system? How do you make a profit broadcasting a time signal?

Originally Posted by S/V Illusion

Clearly, the claim WWV broadcasts aren't subject to solar flare or other geomagnetic propagation anomalies is disingenuous. In answer to your question, W1AW, which is the callsigns of the ARRL, currently broadcasts on numerous frequencies throughout the day/night and isn't supported by tax revenue. There are multiple other alternatives equally or arguably more effective.

And that relates to my question how?