U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by hellosailor

"They fail to mention where the GPS signals that they are using come from."
Jim, you seem to suffer from the urban myth that GPS devices transmit signals. They NEVER do, the only GPS signals or transmissions come from the satellites.

G'Day HS,

Actually that is what I was getting at, mate! I actually do know how the GPS system works. I guess that I didn't express myself well enough... or perhaps you didn't read carefully enough!

Cheers,

Jim

[sailpower]

Originally Posted by Lodesman

British and descendant navies' terminology vice USN's.

Ah, Britain and the USA, two (or more) countries separated by a common language.

[Lake-Effect]

Update: They're preparing the ship to be lifted off of the reef. Heavy-lift salvage equipment should be on the scene by Feb 1 or so.

USS Guardian update: ship stripped of materials that would damage Tubbataha Reef in Philippines

"About 1,000 square meters (about 10,760 square feet) of the reef have been damaged."

[Hydra]

Some pictures now show that the ship is losing part of her planking. This will be difficult to repair, if financially viable.

Of course, it doesn't compare with the damage to the reef and to the reputation of the USN.

Alain

[Jammer Six]

I doubt anyone cares about the navy's "reputation".

United States armed forces, by definition, don't care about anything but the mission.

That's why the Hell's Angels have been ignored while they use the insignia and nickname of a bomber group for all these years.

The service doesn't care what you think about them. They only care about the mission.

[Hydra]

Jammer Six,
I am not an American citizen. I am a civilian. So, my opinion about the US armed forces isn't important. I have no real idea what the US armed forces really think or care about. But I think that some people on this forum will disagree with you.

Alain

[HappyMdRSailor]

Ah, Britain and the USA, two (or more) countries separated by a common language.

More importantly..... Palatable food....

[downunder]

Originally Posted by Jammer Six

I doubt anyone cares about the navy's "reputation".

United States armed forces, by definition, don't care about anything but the mission.

That's why the Hell's Angels have been ignored while they use the insignia and nickname of a bomber group for all these years.

The service doesn't care what you think about them. They only care about the mission.

Yeah. Mission failed, a cockup, stuffup. Bigtime failed. Now they have to salvage mission and repair reputation. Not easy and embarising for all.

[Jammer Six]

Originally Posted by Hydra

But I think that some people on this forum will disagree with you.

What will I ever do then?

[sailpower]

Originally Posted by Hydra

Some pictures now show that the ship is losing part of her planking. This will be difficult to repair, if financially viable.

Of course, it doesn't compare with the damage to the reef and to the reputation of the USN.

Alain

Bad deal for sure but I think the US Navy has distinguished itself ouite well around the world in response to disasters.

[delmarrey]

Trapped U.S. Navy Minesweeper To Be Broken Up >>>> Trapped U.S. Navy Minesweeper To Be Broken Up

“Our only supportable option is to dismantle the damaged ship and remove it in sections,” Rear Adm. Tom Carney, commander of the salvage effort, said in a prepared statement released in conjunction with a Tuesday morning, Jan. 29 press conference at the Philippine Coast Guard facility in Puerto Princesa on the island of Palawan.

The decision, Carney said in the statement, keeps salvage equipment in deeper water and minimizes further damage to the coral reef.

The salvage plan, he said, aims to “safely remove individual sections of the ship without causing the release of harmful materials.”

Earlier, Carney announced the ship was too badly damaged for salvors to tow her off the reef.

[delmarrey]

Originally Posted by Jammer Six

I doubt anyone cares about the navy's "reputation".

United States armed forces, by definition, don't care about anything but the mission.

That's why the Hell's Angels have been ignored while they use the insignia and nickname of a bomber group for all these years.

The service doesn't care what you think about them. They only care about the mission.

That's OK! Some day the Chinese are going to rule the oceans and you'll have to answer to them. >>> http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33153.pdf

[Lake-Effect]

So that's how they built her...



(source - Stricken USS Guardian To Be Broken Up | gCaptain - Maritime & Offshore News)

[Jammer Six]

Whoa. So now the captain didn't merely ground her, he lost her.

[Kettlewell]

Interesting how well the wooden hull has held up.