Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 06-03-2022, 02:39   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Rushworth, Australia
Boat: Looking for 30’ BCC
Posts: 23
Shipping lanes

I have Jimmy Cornellís pilot charts book and canít see shipping lanes (old eyes?)
Just out of curiosity are they shown on NOAA pilot charts and are they more or less accurate?
Thanks.
Andrewpatrol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2022, 03:09   #2
Moderator
 
Pete7's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
Boat: Moody 31
Posts: 17,853
Images: 23
Re: Shipping lanes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewpatrol View Post
I have Jimmy Cornellís pilot charts book and canít see shipping lanes (old eyes?)
Just out of curiosity are they shown on NOAA pilot charts and are they more or less accurate?
Thanks.
You mean this sort of thing. This is a screenshot from the on line Navionics Chart Viewer and shows Lands End in the UK.

Pete
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Lanes.jpg
Views:	66
Size:	220.8 KB
ID:	254023  
Pete7 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2022, 03:14   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Rushworth, Australia
Boat: Looking for 30’ BCC
Posts: 23
Re: Shipping lanes

No, that’s a separation zone for headlands generally.

What I mean are lines that show the general routes that shipping travels between continents or large land masses.
This is to allow me to become more aware of keeping a lookout or pay more attention to the AIS
Andrewpatrol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2022, 03:32   #4
Marine Service Provider

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Little Compton, RI
Boat: Cape George 31
Posts: 2,760
Re: Shipping lanes

I've seen those on charts from time to time, but I'm not sure they apply so much these days: weather routing makes ships go out of what would be the straightest line, and there's no official tracks that ships must follow. Areas of heavier traffic will be obvious, like near New York or the English Channel, but you're not guaranteed to NOT see a ship anywhere. As long as it's a dark and stormy night, and it's really inconvenient to you, you can guarantee a close encounter with a giant ship.
__________________
Ben
zartmancruising.com
Benz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2022, 03:47   #5
Registered User
 
sailorF54's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Perros-Guirec, France
Boat: Jeanneau Sunshine 36
Posts: 997
Re: Shipping lanes

You can use the density map setting on

https://www.marinetraffic.com


e.g. the Engish Channel
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Channel.jpg
Views:	56
Size:	422.0 KB
ID:	254026  
sailorF54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2022, 05:04   #6
Senior Cruiser
 
hpeer's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 8,345
Re: Shipping lanes

This is Vox graphic will give a good idea of distribution. Some areas are more irregular than I thought.

https://www.vox.com/2016/4/25/115031...ing-routes-map
hpeer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2022, 06:48   #7
Registered User
 
jackdale's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 6,252
Images: 1
Re: Shipping lanes

AMVER has historical density plots.

https://www.amver.com/Reports/DensityPlots
__________________
CRYA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator, Sail
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2022, 06:56   #8
JBP
Registered User
 
JBP's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Lake Erie, PA
Boat: Jeanneau Tonic 23
Posts: 417
Re: Shipping lanes

On the great lakes, there are "recommended tracks" for shipping. They are represented by a purple dash line on raster charts, and a black dash arrow thingy line in vector charts (well, that's how OpenCPN does them).
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_20220306-095105_OpenCPN.jpg
Views:	46
Size:	224.6 KB
ID:	254029   Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_20220306-095049_OpenCPN.jpg
Views:	45
Size:	203.5 KB
ID:	254030  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_20220306-095757_OpenCPN.jpg
Views:	57
Size:	259.2 KB
ID:	254032  
JBP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2022, 07:47   #9
Registered User
 
SVTatia's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
Boat: Luders 33 - hull 23
Posts: 1,762
Re: Shipping lanes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewpatrol View Post
I have Jimmy Cornellís pilot charts book and canít see shipping lanes (old eyes?)

Just out of curiosity are they shown on NOAA pilot charts and are they more or less accurate?

Thanks.
Not really the answer you were looking for, but Cornells book and Pilot Charts are planning tools, and shipping lanes are not relevant as it relates to weather observations.
SVTatia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2022, 08:05   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 122
Re: Shipping lanes

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
AMVER has historical density plots.

https://www.amver.com/Reports/DensityPlots

Thatís a nice resource.
Chris31415 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2022, 19:28   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Rushworth, Australia
Boat: Looking for 30’ BCC
Posts: 23
Re: Shipping lanes

Thanks all. I had a quick look at ANVER site and as an example of a future voyage from Hawaii to Alaska it seems there is not any particular route that Iíd imagined or at most 6 routes but there seems a dense spiderweb and so a good lookout needs to be maintained at all times.
MarineTraffic is a good resource too.
I think what I had seen once or twice were old days sailing ship routes which were more weather constrained.
Andrewpatrol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2022, 10:30   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Algarrobo, Chile, playground of the rich and famous.
Boat: Westerly Sealord
Posts: 8,084
Re: Shipping lanes

There is no such thing as 'shipping lanes' on the high seas, just areas of greater or lesser traffic density.
The track from Hawaii to Alaska cuts across just so many routes. Multiply the number of ports between Panama and Alaska by the number of ports between Yokohama and Singapore and that's the number of shipping lanes.
Close north of Hawaii and that northern track through the Aleutians seem to be the busy spots just now.

I use marinetraffic pre-voyage to spot where large concentrations of fishing boats are working so I can try and avoid them (2nd pic) or at least know where I am going to encounter them. They do move around but in the short term - maybe a week or so - it seems to work.

Some parts of the world 'shipping lanes' are fairly well defined ( 3rd pic). The big red smudge uper left is where there were masses of fishing boats in 2019.

Sailing north from Antofagasta I laid a course up the coast just inside the 200 mile Peruvian economic zone and didn't see one while staying far enough offshore to avoid any encounters with local boats..
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	NPac.jpg
Views:	57
Size:	460.8 KB
ID:	254082   Click image for larger version

Name:	MT:FV.jpg
Views:	54
Size:	97.2 KB
ID:	254083  

Click image for larger version

Name:	lanes:chile.jpg
Views:	51
Size:	436.9 KB
ID:	254084  
__________________
A little bit about Chile can be found here https://www.docdroid.net/bO63FbL/202...anchorages-pdf
El Pinguino is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26-03-2022, 23:23   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: USA
Boat: Island Packet 29
Posts: 274
Re: Shipping lanes

Quote:
Originally Posted by El Pinguino View Post
There is no such thing as 'shipping lanes' on the high seas.
Gulf of Mexico has shipping lanes everywhere.
Rockinar is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
shipping

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Which charts show shipping lanes? jalmberg Navigation 30 01-01-2017 00:50
Checking Shipping / Forwarding Company for Boat Shipping pred02 Product or Service Reviews & Evaluations 0 05-05-2011 07:28
Shipping Packages & Mail GordMay Rules of the Road, Regulations & Red Tape 3 05-03-2007 03:59
Shipping parts OverSeas-UPS -nightmare Ram The Sailor's Confessional 12 23-05-2006 19:40

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 23:44.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.