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08-07-2013, 16:00
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#481
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Trying to hold key and choose! Easier said than done.
St Andrews Marina, Panama City, Fla.
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08-07-2013, 16:43
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#482
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Location: Melbourne
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Re: Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS
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Originally Posted by Friend of Nina
Trying to hold key and choose! Easier said than done.
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It's a test of coordination like patting head and rubbing tummy!
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08-07-2013, 16:48
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#483
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Port Stephens
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Re: Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS
Cherie and others
There's a way to get rid of unwanted posters. You need to be logged in. Go to Quick Links and then to Edit Options. Then go to Edit Ignore List. Then put each user name on the list that you don't want to see.
All the best to all - still hoping to See Niña here in Newcastle soon!
Rick
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08-07-2013, 19:20
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#484
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Location: Ireland
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Re: Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS
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Originally Posted by Worried Mum
Dear ShaktiGuri, Please could you contact DigitalGlobe to ask about high res visible images (not SAR) from this area if available. We would obviously like to look at NOW images, maybe as well as PAST images. Thanks. My son is Matthew Wootton, the 35 year old Briton on board.
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Don't rule out SAR if it's available. SAR penetrates clouds, distinguishes different materials. A mothballed NASA program was to use Synthetic Aperture Radar imaging for Search and Rescue (SAR2).
You might also be interested in the experience with crowdsourced satellite image SAR (With the help of google, Microsoft, DigitalGlobe...) for Jim Gray: http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2010/EECS-2010-142.pdf
Thanks for keeping this thread open so experienced sailors can fill in some gaps in Niña's unfinished story. A well-tested ship, excellent crew, bad but survivable weather, scant and fallible communications technology all give reason for hope. Everyone feels powerless on some level which might be why you get "monday-morning quarterbacks" and those of us wishing modern technology was bigger than the sea. But when Iridium, Spot, EPIRB fail to give us answers or a direct connection to loved ones, we can still pray for God's comfort and guidance.
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08-07-2013, 21:08
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At the risk of further upsetting the armchair sailors . Has anybody considered setting up a fund via PayPal to be used in efforts to establish what is the fate of Nina and her crew? It could be used to donate to the SAR in NZ, or to fly a relative out there that doesn't have the where with it all to fund themselves, or pay for a private search. Seems there are many experts on here that would glad to give their opinions where to look.
I for one would be happy to donate a few bucks providing it was administered by a professional person of some kind.
So let's see who is prepared to put their money where there mouths are...
Bazzer
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08-07-2013, 21:59
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS
Two very busy major shipping channels run up the guts of the Tasman Sea,
If they are in trouble, Thats one way of getting attention, But its more to the west side of the Tasman, Nearer to The OZ side,
If they are out to the east of NZ, Thats a very large ocean with nothing in it, So expect a very long delay with them getting back, Especially with broken equiptment,
Very experienced crew, The last thing they would think off, would be the Epirb,
Thats a last resort,
They will be battling it out and repairing stuff, Just give them time,
Bullimore, the RTW racer was upside down for a week before an Aussie Frigate picked him up,
That was in the south of the Southern Ocean,
He was at the extreme limits of the search plane, But they found him,
You have to be positive,
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09-07-2013, 05:54
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That's pretty neat as he was like. 4000 miles out if read correctly??
Cherie
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09-07-2013, 06:00
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South of 43 S, Australia
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Re: Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS
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Originally Posted by Friend of Nina
That's pretty neat as he was like. 4000 miles out if read correctly??
Cherie
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About 3,700 Kilometres / 2,300 miles / 2,000 nautical miles
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09-07-2013, 06:32
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Join Date: May 2013
Location: West Palm Beach
Boat: Leopard 40
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Re: Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS
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Originally Posted by cloudsail
Don't rule out SAR if it's available. SAR penetrates clouds, distinguishes different materials. A mothballed NASA program was to use Synthetic Aperture Radar imaging for Search and Rescue (SAR2).
You might also be interested in the experience with crowdsourced satellite image SAR (With the help of google, Microsoft, DigitalGlobe...) for Jim Gray: http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2010/EECS-2010-142.pdf
Thanks for keeping this thread open so experienced sailors can fill in some gaps in Niña's unfinished story. A well-tested ship, excellent crew, bad but survivable weather, scant and fallible communications technology all give reason for hope. Everyone feels powerless on some level which might be why you get "monday-morning quarterbacks" and those of us wishing modern technology was bigger than the sea. But when Iridium, Spot, EPIRB fail to give us answers or a direct connection to loved ones, we can still pray for God's comfort and guidance.
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SAR can be very useful in many situations. But I think it is going to suffer the same fate as any other imagery in this area. There just aren't a lot of collections occurring over open ocean with high spatial resolution (or any that I am aware of). The area is too large. There could be some coastal coverages in this area that I could ask DigitalGlobe about but would need some idea of where (a bounding box) since I am not familiar with this area or places to look.
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09-07-2013, 07:07
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Re: Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS
I like Bazzar's idea about starting a fund. Count me in! (Behind the frank/blunt comments is just a big Teddy Bear!)
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09-07-2013, 10:42
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HELP!
I received the phone records of my mothers phone. I called Iridium but doesn't think their numbers. Says start with 8816...
On May 17,24,25,26,28, June 1,2,4,6,10, 11th.
Originating phone call was from 342204. CIC 90201, call code 827.
On the 4th, 22 secs, 6th 53 secs, 2 on10th, first 0 secs, then 42 secs, 11, 43 secs,
Then on 14th changed to 625217 14secs CIC 90201, call code 827.
On 18 706342, 1.13 time,CIC 90201, call code 827
Now on May 28th number originating 1347513, CIC 90201, call code 827
Please help me figure this out!
Eternally grateful,
Cherie
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09-07-2013, 12:03
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#494
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS
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Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
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They would seem to be 4 digit codes only Which fits in with the number given by Iridium of 8816 (and which is allocated to them - per here).
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09-07-2013, 12:04
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#495
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Location: Maine
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Re: Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS
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