Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS

[Friend of Nina]

I've passed both of your info to RCZc and in the process checking Revere. Again so many thanks . Chrie

[Friend of Nina]

Originally Posted by Friend of Nina

I've passed both of your info to RCZc and in the process checking Revere. Again so many thanks . Chrie

It's RCC. And Cherie fat fingers!!

[Friend of Nina]

With all your help RCC has a info on raft. Already checking into Revere rafts.

[Friend of Nina]

URGENT! There was a message but not delivered. Please if any one knows any thing please contact me on this forum. I just took snapshots of email so please bear with me!





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Any help will be greatly appreciated. Again all those that helped with raft identification I sent to RCC. If I didn't thank personally it was because I was exhausted!!

[David_Old_Jersey]

I have no experience of Sat Phones, but am curious as to why the message was never delivered.....was it a problem at Nina's end (and perhaps has got worse, hence no comms since?).....and maybe they even think they are giving out updates? Of course the fact that they were clearly intending to be back in contact (rather than it being a good assumption) is a concern.

The thought also occurred to me to ask whether Nina had any solar power (Panels) onboard - the reason for asking is that if they lost all power (engine) and drained the batteries (without realising?) then with no solar (or other means of generating power) then the comms would still be down, or even with solar might take a while to charge a battery (especially in the weather / if it takes a while to discover which one(s) still hold a charge)......of course they may have had a generator aboard as well.

Obviously the above stretching a bit and either already thought of or of no great use - but thrown into the pot anyway!

At the risk of second guessing the SAR folks involved (who know far more than me of the area and conditions), am thinking that perhaps a look for the vessel along the coast of Oz (including well off track), a few hundred miles or so out (beyond any reefs) might now be worth a shot, could be she is disabled and has been making slow progress, whether to intended port or somewhere else.

If it was me onboard and had lost the electronic navigation, then whilst comfortable with using a pencil - nonetheless my navigation would be very very cautious, especially if my starting point was uncertain and the vessel had other problems......and that could well involve heading for somewhere well away from the intended port, simply because easier (safer) to close onto (or I was already familiar with?). Might be worth someone (who knows that part of the world well) working through any easier to arrive in places and then working backwards for a vessel that has problems (speed and / or manoeuvrability - won't want to risk a lee shore if not confident boat can claw it's way off if needed).

[Friend of Nina]

I forwarded to RCC and Laz your message. I bet RCC pretty irritated with Iridium knowing they had this info knowing lost at sea and evoking US privacy rules. Gosh I get spam everyday because a company sells my personal information. Very up standing Iridium, sailors keep this in mind when using them. Cherie

[Jroach321]

Good points David_old_jersey.
I do know they have solar power on the boat to charge the batteries to run led interior lighting. It seems that he didn't feel it was an emergency when they noticed the storm sails were stripped to the pole, so I can only assume they still had motor power or the message would have been directed toward needing help.

[bazzer]

Originally Posted by Friend of Nina

I forwarded to RCC and Laz your message. I bet RCC pretty irritated with Iridium knowing they had this info knowing lost at sea and evoking US privacy rules. Gosh I get spam everyday because a company sells my personal information. Very up standing Iridium, sailors keep this in mind when using them. Cherie

Indeed, Iridium is sold heavily as a safety device, but this makes one wonder if that's true.
Where does 4knots 310 degrees put them? Obviously Nina did not send a lat and long with the message but perhaps Iridium has it?

[Friend of Nina]

Yes didn't realize message not delivered but appears it was a continuing conversation from someone. Who knows who.

You've been great Dave and all the sailors who are helping Nina get home. RCC appreciated all info on raft. Again my heartfelt thanks. Cherie

[mbianka]

Certainly the shredded storm sails kind of sucks. But, if it was dire situation I would have thought the experienced Captain and crew would have set off the EPIRB or at least have had it handy ready to go. Since that did not happen I remain optimistic especially after following the situation of Jay on 3/4 Time whose boat was never found (despite a SAR effort) until it ended up on the north CUBA coast.

[romulusm]

In the message "received time" is 3 june, a bit before midnight, motoring on a NW heading? Wow! Iridium are hiding before privacy? This is simply unbelievable. I guess SR area is very different from what everyone modeled. Changes everything this message.

[bazzer]

Isn't this incomplete message before the last commutation on June 4th?

[Friend of Nina]

Just some thoughts. Who knows how search would have gone if Iridium did what was right. They wouldn't even give RCC or NZ police information. Only when US State Dept got involved. Shame on you Iridium!

[Friend of Nina]

Response from RCC..





RCC

[Friend of Nina]

Well found at Cuba! Long way to go!